CK3 Dev Diary #1 - Dynasties & Houses

CK3 Dev Diary #1 - Dynasties & Houses

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I have a much important question: Will CK3 have Unicode support? Because seriously, being limited only to a handful of special characters that are used in languages of countries that happened to be saved from communism by the US over 70 years ago is annoying.
 

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I like this. Sounds like a good idea, but we'll see after release.
 

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Will it be possible for non-house heads to petition the house head to legitimize one of their offspring (potentially for a price in gold, prestige or favours)?
I, too, would like to know if I can offer favors (carnal or otherwise) to get little Billy into the race for the crown!
 

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It seems like if the game follows CK2 inheritance rules, in which the player always plays as the primary heir upon death of the current character, the player will be very limited in their ability to create cadet branches.

Will CK3 included any mechanic that lets you choose which of your heirs you continue playing as after your character's death?

For example, In CK2, if you start a game at the 867 start date as King Charles II the bald of West Francia and die on Turn 1, you are going to continue playing as your son King Louis the Stammerer of Aquitaine, although due to gavelkind your younger son Prince Carloman will inherit the Duchy of Burgundy. Will CK3 provide any way to allow you to choose to continue playing as Prince Carloman instead of King Louis to let the player have more interaction with the Cadet system?
 

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It seems like if the game follows CK2 inheritance rules, in which the player always plays as the primary heir upon death of the current character, the player will be very limited in their ability to create cadet branches.
It has been commented in various places by the devs that this is a mechanic that will be used more by the AI than the player, for that very reason.
 

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on a pure aesthetic/readability, it would be nice to get an higher contrast between the texts and the background.
 
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Not sure if this has been asked yet, but will my soldiers be wearing my house insignia as well? Or are they still tied to their respective holdings?
 

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Perhaps instead of affecting genetic traits, dynasty members without the genetic traits would get a chance to get an equivalent trait, e.g. brawny instead of strong, groomed instead of attractive, shrew instead of quick/genius. The idea being that the reputation of the dynasty doesn't affect the actual DNA of members, but rather inspires them to try and live up to the dynasty's reputation.

And also to keep the propagation mechanic, the chance could be increased during childhood if the parent(if child isn't in a different court than their dynastic parent) or guardian of the same dynasty has the genetic or equivalent trait.
This, very much this.
 

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A question based on some of the criticisms I've seen in the thread — if a dynast pursues a legacy that runs counter to his traits, will that trigger a stress buildup?

Also, regarding dynasts — is the dynast always automatically going to be a specific character with, say, the most holdings or prestige? Or can other prestigious members of the dynasty go to war to claim the title?

I was confused on how cadet branches could be made interesting, but you did it anyway. However I'm not really sold on renown. Legacies feel gamey and say dishineriting should have harsher consequences than just spending a currency.
There's nothing here to say there won't be harsher consequences — just that you need to spend renown to do it. I'm sure there could be fallout other than that.

Will it be possible for non-house heads to petition the house head to legitimize one of their offspring (potentially for a price in gold, prestige or favours)?
This makes a lot of sense to me, similar to petitioning the Pope to excommunicate or lift excommunication in CK2.
 

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I wonder how this new mechanic will affect a game over. Will I be able to switch to a differend branch of the dynasty, if the last member of my house dies?
 

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I.e., a dynasty of lawmakers would probably make very good vassals, etc.
Will we be able to have some influence on courtier or vassal dynasty legacies as to encourage a dynasty of lawmakers? I always find it a fun RP thing to have one dynasty be my chancellor and tailor them towards that.
 

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This sounds good. I like this.

I do hope that Dynasts and houses can have rivalries with other dynasts and houses. :)
That is a good point - will it be possible to have legacy bad blood between Houses, or even blood feuds?

Kinda like Harkonnens and Atreides in Dune, or Lancastrians and Yorks in England, or the late Bourbons vs the Habsburg?
 

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Wow! I am blown away at this already! It looks like a lot of thought has gone into the systems here (I suppose years of lessons from CK2 will do that) and I already can't wait for the next dev diary.
 

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Making your own Cadet Branch requires quite a bit of prestige, that you do not stand to inherit your House Head’s titles ...
Do I get it right that I could start the head of a lower house of one great dynasty? So we have the french royal dynasty, their sub houses and maybe one or two more other dynasties together with the proper houses`?
 

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Epigenetics confirmed. Not only your heir gets your nose but your can invest epigenetic mana to make him live longer.
 

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Firstly something that we know will especially please CK2 players, we’ve redefined what a Dynasty actually is - not a monolithic entity, but a collection of Houses. No longer will Dynasties have just one name, one Coat of Arms, and one identity - instead several Houses (aka Cadet Branches!) will be collected under the umbrella that is the Dynasty, working together (theoretically…) towards bringing renown upon the Dynasty!
FINALLY F** CADET BRANCHES!!! :D
I was already very excited about CK3, now I can't wait to get 2020!

The next DD will be in the next week? Plis say yes!
 

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Hopefully in Rules there is something to not let this bonus business for the whole dynasty to have many geniuses, or that live much longer than normal, I would surely disable that.
 

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I have a much important question: Will CK3 have Unicode support? Because seriously, being limited only to a handful of special characters that are used in languages of countries that happened to be saved from communism by the US over 70 years ago is annoying.
Judging by Imperator: yes.

As long as you have a font file that contains the said characters (just normal .ttf/.otf files, no need for a converter like in older games), they would render.