CK3 - Changes to Flavor Pack Pricing

[Axis89]

Yeah because a tiny flavour pack with new outfits and a few events is meaningful DLC that made fundamental additions to the game right?

Wait I didn't write that the quote isn't mine!

 

[Axis89]

People in here are reacting like they announced they were going to retroactively charge our credit cards for past purchases. I realize I'll get downvoted to oblivion and called an apologist for not jumping on the boycott bandwagon but might I suggest... I dunno, just not buying things if you think the price is too high?

You don't get it, we all love the type of games they have made in the past, there are no other companies who make the games like this, so when they start getting greedy amd also release breadcrumbs as "Content" and want to double thr prize we all get angry because we don't want them to become Activision and water down their titles to arcade games and money grabs.

We all are suffering from Stockholm syndrome, but the announcement blew the bubble.

 

[Sonmi]

So do you guys think anyone from Paradox is actually going to answer our questions on the reason behind this move, or is this basically just a place for us to pointlessly scream?

It's a place for us to pointlessly scream.

The thread has been up for long enough for them to communicate with us - they haven't. Mere conjecture here, but if I were to guess, I'd say the devs/community ambassadors probably aren't too keen on the change either and therefore aren't too eager to defend it to the almost universally aggravated fanbase.

 

[Anonim97]

Normally this post would actually be an infraction, but I will let it slide for one important reason that I want everyone reading this thread to think about:

Are these 10 pages devoid of criticism? No.

There's quite a lot of criticism in this thread. That is allowed. We just don't allow unnecessary toxicity, or attacks on devs. If you don't know the difference, then that's on you. This thread is not about how we moderate the forum, and if anyone comments on it anymore, that will be a major infraction. This thread is not about that. If you have feedback or feel the need to talk about that, my inbox is open. Now please, get back on topic, but stay kind.

You could have at least sticked it on the main site of Paradox Forum (in "Featured Content") like You do for Dev Diaries, tho.

EDIT: And make a post about it on Steam.

 

[Londinium]

I remember when Paradox went public, some people rejected the idea that over the long run they'd start profit maximising over the old company culture. Well it's been happening bit by bit over the last 2/3 years but here's probably one of the most egregious examples. Retrospectively doubling the price of content light expansions for no reason other than 'we think they should cost more'. Here's an idea - if you want to increase the share price, rather than bleeding your GSG players, how about releasing more CKIII content rather than taking 2 years to put out one major expansion and how about sorting out your 3rd party publishing arm, which seems to release a dud for every moderate success and hasn't had a proper hit since Magicka (the less said about the purchase of White Wolf and shambolic Bloodlines 2 project the better).

 

[Axis89]

I remember when Paradox went public, some people rejected the idea that over the long run they'd start profit maximising over the old company culture. Well it's been happening bit by bit over the last 2/3 years but here's probably one of the most egregious examples. Retrospectively doubling the price of content light expansions for no reason other than 'we think they should cost more'. Here's an idea - if you want to increase the share price, how about releasing more CKIII content and sorting out your 3rd party publishing arm, which seems to release a dud for every moderate success and hasn't had a proper hit since Magicka.

Spot on!

 

[Ksiendzu]

Great communication PDX. "Fans will soon forget" approach. It does not discourage me from supporting the company at all...

 

[YellowPress]

I find this a rather gross exaggeration.
There have been multiple events of severe criticism (i.e. Stellaris 3.0 update) where a lot of criticism did not get deleted. A whole lot of aggressive, offensive or insulting posts have been deleted, whether they included valid criticism or not, but there was plenty of criticism still left intact, if it was not also insulting the developers or other community members. And sometimes quite severe criticism at that.

There are still people who regularly complain about the Stellaris 3.0 update and think it has been a major misstep, but their posts don't get deleted, if they are not insulting anyone, but are merely stating an opinion on a game design decision. Whether with added reasoning or not is irrelevant.
The tone is what gets your posts deleted, not the criticism in itself.

My criticism is valid, yours is not
Being rude is also useful criticism at showing just how annoyed you've made customers they say that

 

[CK3bugginME]

Don't worry they'll release a Pride Pack @ $13.99 cause that was important for medieval Europe

So do you guys think anyone from Paradox is actually going to answer our questions on the reason behind this move, or is this basically just a place for us to pointlessly scream?

You got your answer in the post above. "Stay kind while we rob you"

 

[YellowPress]

Don't worry they'll release a Pride Pack @ $13.99 cause that was important for medieval Europe

You got your answer in the post above. "Stay kind while we rob you"

We already got gay marriage in game after 20 petitions asking for it, even tho ck2 got tonnes of bugs due to it

 

[Axis89]

Let's not get too into the Pride things, we aren't angry at people who love the same gender as themselves, but yes some of the content is either fart jokes or modern concepts slammed into a very different age when things we take for granted was far far from respected.

It also makes it look like it wasn't all that bad, but honestly they would be better off showing the darker sides of history too.
But yeah double the price for their content.. which already is... yeah I am done hoping they pull themselves together.

 

[HereticKannon]

Its a perfectly valid criticism. Do you think that way of life was accepted in medieval times? If I want to play a medieval game I don't want modern messages forced into it

Regardless of what you believe about that particular topic, it is not the topic of this discussion. We're here to discuss the nearly doubling of the price of flavor pack DLC for CK3.

I have bought nearly every Paradox title, I love most the games you've made despite their many flaws. When we buy Paradox games we basically know what we're signing up for at this point. A buggy but hopefully still fun base game that you then build off of one DLC at a time. DLC that becomes integral and downright necessary to the game. Plus it gives Modders more tools to better their content and thus your product as a whole.

Now you're nearly doubling the price of flavor packs and giving us no good reason for it other than some ambiguous wording about the value increasing. The value increasing how? Future flavor pack DLC being 91% better than it has been? DLC which you have already released having 91% more value because suddenly you've said it does?

 

[johen8]

I don't understand... It's a digital, finished good, how can you justify to increase it's price? The only reason would be if like some have commented, you are going to add some content to it like with Stellaris, but otherwise, I don't think there's ever been a game or digital product that INCREASED in price after some time (with exception of early access titles etc)

 

[SirPenetrator]

Damn, Paradox really sat in their Offices like "It's mighty quite around here, no controversies or whatever, this is boring... we ought to stir the fire up a bit" and decided to dump a barrel of oil into it

 

[CK3bugginME]

Regardless of what you believe about that particular topic, it is not the topic of this discussion. We're here to discuss the nearly doubling of the price of flavor pack DLC for CK3.

I have bought nearly every Paradox title, I love most the games you've made despite their many flaws. When we buy Paradox games we basically know what we're signing up for at this point. A buggy but hopefully still fun base game that you then build off of one DLC at a time. DLC that becomes integral and downright necessary to the game. Plus it gives Modders more tools to better their content and thus your product as a whole.

Now you're nearly doubling the price of flavor packs and giving us no good reason for it other than some ambiguous wording about the value increasing. The value increasing how? Future flavor pack DLC being 91% better than it has been? DLC which you have already released having 91% more value because suddenly you've said it does?

Nah man, the whole point is getting what we pay for yes?

A medieval experience ruling a kingdom. Are you on console? Do you know how unplayable the game is and has been since release? Do you know the bug report forum isn't even set up to take bug reports for PS5 or Xbox?Yet we are directed there anyway to report issues. Do you know there are people who paid for the expansion pass for $79.99 that haven't seen Northern Lords, Iberia or Royal Court yet and now they are raising prices?

To point out how another poster said about what they added in CK2 that caused many more bug issues yet they can't fix a game that people paid more for do you not see my frustrations?

Overall I really want to like this game. The bugs that do not get resolved and the pandering take away from that for me

 

[TempestM]

Wut, how this thread suddenly jumped into that direction xD
Is that some diversion to get it locked?

Gay marriage had plenty of threads and it certainly has nothing to do with increasing the prices

 

[DebbieElla]

Get back on topic.

 

[Ninaran]

PDX coming back from what feels like two months of vacation: "we've come once again for your financial support."

Well, they didn't just lose CK3 future sales. That's gonna hurt the other games, too. Well done.

 

[Milten]

I was checking CK3 forum from time to time to see if there are news about the end of summer break and next expansion. Instead I get this.

Oh well, props to PD for subverting my expectations.

 

[Zorzogoth]

Wow amazing masterclass in how to piss of your fanbase and shooting yourself in the foot. Really dumb and sad.