Are there any benefits to marrying yourself matrilineally as a man into a powerful family/dynasty? Like the Karlings, Piast, Rukikid, and Jimenez.
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CK3 - Are there any benefits to marrying yourself matrilineally as a man into a powerful family/dynasty?
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I assume we're in a male dominated faith.
If you're talking about your daughters or are a woman yourself than yes. You want your own dynasty to survive and your (grand)children may inherit worthy claims.
If you're male or talking about your sons it's risky. Make sure that there are enough heirs of your own dynasty left. But the only real benefit I can think of is when marrying unlanded members of your family to landed members of other dynasties. Your dynasty will get renown from Queen/King/Duke/... consorts.
If you're talking about your daughters or are a woman yourself than yes. You want your own dynasty to survive and your (grand)children may inherit worthy claims.
If you're male or talking about your sons it's risky. Make sure that there are enough heirs of your own dynasty left. But the only real benefit I can think of is when marrying unlanded members of your family to landed members of other dynasties. Your dynasty will get renown from Queen/King/Duke/... consorts.
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i'd marry myself matrilineally only if i was female or i'm marrying someone of my dynasty.
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So there are no benefits to doing this if your a male character?
Hmm if your landed you can call on them when you are in a war maybe? If they are also landed? I believe they are called the "call on house/dynasy members" option?
Is it possible to change the dynasty of my kid to my own house/dynasty? So I have an heir, while being matrilineally married into the karlings for example? When playing a male character?
I guess you could do it as a second marriage for an alliance (especially if your target is anyway too old to have kids). Very situational though.
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If you have a ton of heirs already (like 7-8 is pretty safe, but rather rare unless you have equal inheritance, concubines, polygamy, or a bunch of acknowledged bastards sitting around), then there's not too much issue with it.
I remember in a CK2 game, one of my buddies had a ton of heirs already, so he consented to marrying his character matrilineally to my female character so I could have some heirs. It certainly helped that I had no intention of trying to gain hold of his lands.
Edit: The really funny part of that exchange was that my buddy's character was Paranoid, and was convinced I was sleeping around on him, despite the fact that I married his character for his genes (well, the alliance was also nice) and had 0 intent to sleep with another.
I remember in a CK2 game, one of my buddies had a ton of heirs already, so he consented to marrying his character matrilineally to my female character so I could have some heirs. It certainly helped that I had no intention of trying to gain hold of his lands.
Edit: The really funny part of that exchange was that my buddy's character was Paranoid, and was convinced I was sleeping around on him, despite the fact that I married his character for his genes (well, the alliance was also nice) and had 0 intent to sleep with another.
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they'd likely be your ally. remember that marriage doesn't change which house or dynasty you are, but the type of marriage certainly dictates the dynasty of your children.
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Just make a normal marriage in that situation. You will get an alliance from any type of marriage.
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You'd need to be in a situation where there was no (or small) danger of a non-dynasty heir coming from it (like a special succession law or already having plenty of in-dynasty heirs ahead). You'd also have to get some benefit from that marriage (like a powerful alliance), and the marriage would ONLY be accepted matrilineally. It would be a desperate move.
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It's useful to get alliances, especially with powerful vassals who only have 1 daughter and doesn't want to marry non- matrilineally
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