That occurred to me as well, except it doesn't do that - schwarherz specifically said that Wiz's last version is still open slather, so anyone can fork off from that point, call it "CK2&" and go on their merry way.
If you're referring to the posts of myself, Battle Bunny, riknap and thekonkoe, there's nothing negative or ungrateful there, just requests for clarification about a shift in policy. If anyone's going to burn out over that, then I'd hate to see what they'd do when they first hit a particularly persistent and hard-to-diagnose bug. I reckon it'd end with something on fire
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Wiz is still part of the project. If permission was given to the mod under him and he hasn't left, then of course we do not need to ask for more permissions unless the mod owners decided they wanted people to ask for permission again. See Patrum Scuta for an example of a mod who actually did change their mind about permissions after version 0.3.I love how that post effectively says we can't use any updates of the ck2plus sequal/continuation without reapplying for permission, yet you can use other previously integrated mods without needing to ask for it
We don't find that objectionable when it comes to the work before us or the work of other people. If we have a mod incorporated into our code that does not want to get shared and you just take it, then that puts us in a wrong position for letting you take what you want with credit. Additionally there is content beyond what Wiz originally created that is part of the mod from this point on out. Wiz did not give blanket permission until retiring to his advisory management role and certainly should not be expected to be giving it in place of other people now. If anything now that his project was picked up I would advise that the old code be returned to a state of requiring permission, and just have it go through us instead in the future. It isn't that we are being stingy, but we want to make sure the proper permissions are given from everyone all around as well as that we know what is going on with our code. What you are seeing here isn't unprecedented or offensive. It it mostly organizational and courtesy.
Yes, certainly, someone that was rude enough to steal our work without asking for permission would be met with full force of whatever moderation Paradox would offer to bring forth. They also would not be acquiring permission from us in the future. Regardless of standing threats to our coding existence (none, of course), unforeseen issues can pop up. Not just that but we are not the owners of all of the code that we use. We cannot always speak for the feelings of everyone else associated with us directly or indirectly. It is well within our rights, logical reason, and community expectations based upon precedent set elsewhere. It was even done formally in the appropriate fashion. It is to protect us and others which should be easy enough to accept. The policy was changed in the first place because Wiz was retiring and he wanted people to be able to use his work to build upon. The permissions changed back again because we don't want that to lead to trouble with our work.
Thank you for the clarification, and for not taking these queries as attacks or criticisms. I've not seen anything from the new team that would make me wary, other than the concern that might naturally come from any change to anything one has some investment in.
You are asking the wrong people. Cybrxkhan is the developer of VIET. We are doing what we can to ensure greater ease of compatibility with other mods in the future. As far as compatibility goes with VIET for now Cybrxkhan releases his own CK2Plus versions. I'm pretty sure it will stay that way. Once we figure out what parts we will integrate and work with him further who knows.
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