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Hi, while playing as Roman Empire Chalcedonian (via Byzantium first bookmark) does not appear the College of Cardinals system of election for me. I reloaded as Carolingian Empire and instead it seemed all normal for that country. Any solution? Or some files where can I system on my own?

So it works for some realms? That is very interesting. Thanks for this info :)
 
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So it works for some realms? That is very interesting. Thanks for this info :)
Not every time in some situations that I didn't verify with attention, maybe as said in the discussion could be a problem related to the roman empire and bishop holdings because when I created the Patriarch Supreme without creating Roman Empire the ERE can use the election system, I think there is problem specifically with roman empire and then the Carolingian Empire follows into the problem (testified moments ago). I hope it's useful to solve the problem :)
 

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I tested a bit more, but never thought of switching rulers. Anyway, it's definitely NOT specific to roman empire.

From what I can tell college doesnt seem to work when Patriarch Supreme is NOT your pentarch, or i.e. religion head.
 

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Playing in v.2.5.2.2 (upgraded from 2.5.2) and with CK2+ v.4.04.7 (upgraded from 4.04.4) as the High Kings of Éire, list for setup here. Slight spoilers below for the "Millennium's Eve" AAR but I'll keep it vague.



Two issues I spotted:

1. I don't see any option for matrilineal marriage, not even in tooltips for future laws. I don't mind having to pass laws, etc., but it was a useful option in vanilla and I'd like to know if it's still an option.

2. I pressed the claim of a courtier. Halfway into the war, they "come" to my court as an adventurer to ask for help to press their claim (!?). I say yes, because I want them to win, and even give them gold.

A while later, they arrive as a hostile army. The courtier is annoyed at me for "pressing a rival claim" - which is for *them*.

I can understand a courtier getting impatient while a claim is being pressed for them, but in my view there should be two changes:

a) If you are already pressing a courtier's claim, a dialogue option to tell them to be patient (or even two - a diplomatic and a less diplomatic one)

b) If they do launch a separate adventurer claim, at least the possibility of allying - since both sides want the same outcome.
 

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I'm trying to play in Byzantium but every time I start a game it seems viceroyalties just don't exist. When I disable the mod, they work fine.

Welcome to Plus.

Plus has no viceroyalties. Instead, it has the Imperial government. When an imperial vassal dies, the emperor has several choices given. He can accept the legal heir, request that the title in question is granted to someone else (who is selected by the council) or take the title for himself (which will cause negative opinion).

At any time Emperor can make a title inheritable, which will revert the vassal back to ordinary feudal government.
 
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I keep getting repeated crashes at the one point in my game and I want to know if it is worth continuing.

[triggerimplementation.cpp:8389]: Assert failed for 'has_building': false && "Wrong Scope in CHasBuildingTrigger!"
[event.cpp:580]: Previous assert occured in Event '69074'.
[event.cpp:580]: Previous assert occured in Event 'TOG.1200'.
[event.cpp:580]: Previous assert occured in Event 'Plus.900'.
[triggerimplementation.cpp:8389]: Assert failed for 'has_building': false && "Wrong Scope in CHasBuildingTrigger!"
[event.cpp:580]: Previous assert occured in Event '6231'.
[event.cpp:580]: Previous assert occured in Event 'Plus.2354'.
[event.cpp:580]: Previous assert occured in Event 'Plus.900'.
[character.cpp:2091]: Trying to add non-existent modifier negative_money to character (ID: 1000327199 )
[character.cpp:2091]: Trying to add non-existent modifier negative_money to character (ID: 1000309251 )
[character.cpp:2091]: Trying to add non-existent modifier negative_money to character (ID: 1000329019 )
[province.cpp:1794]: County Vestisland has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Reykjavik has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Skalholt has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Alftanes has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1794]: County Austisland has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Glaumbaer has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Valþjotstadur has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Kirkjubaer has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1794]: County Norðurland vestra has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Saudárkrókur has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Skagafjördur has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Húnaping Vestra has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1794]: County Norðurland eystra has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Akureyri has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Husavik has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Hrisey has no holder - correcting!

[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.21]:INFO: law changing for the Thikana of Candhoba (c_candhoba):
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.21]:---> current succession law for c_candhoba: (None)
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.21]:---> current gender law for c_candhoba: Agnatic
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.21]:---> Received Title From: Raja Mattat the Fat, Primary Title: d_medapata
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.21]:---> current succession law for d_medapata: Primogeniture
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.21]:---> INFO: c_candhoba has to be manually corrected to Primogeniture succession
[messagehandler.cpp:611]: §YKosmas Sarantapechos§! wants to Become Paragon of Virtue.
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.23]:Rodelinda Theodericing marries Immed of Anhalt (Spouse Finder - has claim)
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.26]:Shararah Hafizid marries Bextîyar Nutkani (Spouse Finder - higher tier)
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.5.7]:Eanburh Wihtgilsing marries Oshere Leodwalding (Cousin Marriage)
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.5.7]:Annual faction maintenance pulse begins
[messagehandler.cpp:611]: The Court Faction of Cherson is now §GHappy§!.
[messagehandler.cpp:611]: The Prosperity Faction of Cherson is now §YUnhappy§!.
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.5.9]:Sheikh Shahin of Hormuz divorces Shola Rummahid.
[messagehandler.cpp:611]: §YStrategitissa Simonis of Thessalonika§! has joined the 'Prosperity Faction' faction.

This occurs May 840.

I also have another crashing issue. This occurs any time period by the look of it. It occurs whenever I open the the trade post screen.

[characterhistory.cpp:515]: Bad Father for character: Euric (1000215059)
[characterhistory.cpp:515]: Bad Father for character: Frithigar (1000215061)
[characterhistory.cpp:565]: Bad Mother for character: Ioannes (1000094576)
[characterhistory.cpp:515]: Bad Father for character: Domentziolus (1000094604)
[characterhistory.cpp:565]: Bad Mother for character: Bernard (1000094931)
[characterhistory.cpp:565]: Bad Mother for character: Wicbert (1000094952)
[characterhistory.cpp:565]: Bad Mother for character: Ava (107671)
[characterhistory.cpp:515]: Bad Father for character: Sergio (1000094276)
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_overlay_char_favor_indicator_small]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_overlay_char_favor_indicator]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_overlay_char_favor_indicator]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_hospital_level_strip]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_major_modifiers_strip]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_crown_focus_icon]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_province_bg_extended_2]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_province_bg_extended_3]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_province_terrain_mountain]

history.cpp:255]: Executing History from -1.1.1 to 2.1.1
[history.cpp:255]: Executing History from 2.1.1 to 1000.12.25
[controlcommands.cpp:58]: Human MrHuman set as primary local
[controlcommands.cpp:52]: Human MrHuman unset as primary local
[controlcommands.cpp:58]: Human MrHuman set as primary local
[frontend.cpp:1275]:

[[ Launching SINGLEPLAYER-game ]]
Start-date: 840.3.3
Country: Makarios Kaloethes
 

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I keep getting repeated crashes at the one point in my game and I want to know if it is worth continuing.

[triggerimplementation.cpp:8389]: Assert failed for 'has_building': false && "Wrong Scope in CHasBuildingTrigger!"
[event.cpp:580]: Previous assert occured in Event '69074'.
[event.cpp:580]: Previous assert occured in Event 'TOG.1200'.
[event.cpp:580]: Previous assert occured in Event 'Plus.900'.
[triggerimplementation.cpp:8389]: Assert failed for 'has_building': false && "Wrong Scope in CHasBuildingTrigger!"
[event.cpp:580]: Previous assert occured in Event '6231'.
[event.cpp:580]: Previous assert occured in Event 'Plus.2354'.
[event.cpp:580]: Previous assert occured in Event 'Plus.900'.
[character.cpp:2091]: Trying to add non-existent modifier negative_money to character (ID: 1000327199 )
[character.cpp:2091]: Trying to add non-existent modifier negative_money to character (ID: 1000309251 )
[character.cpp:2091]: Trying to add non-existent modifier negative_money to character (ID: 1000329019 )
[province.cpp:1794]: County Vestisland has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Reykjavik has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Skalholt has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Alftanes has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1794]: County Austisland has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Glaumbaer has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Valþjotstadur has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Kirkjubaer has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1794]: County Norðurland vestra has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Saudárkrókur has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Skagafjördur has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Húnaping Vestra has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1794]: County Norðurland eystra has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Akureyri has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Husavik has no holder - correcting!
[province.cpp:1907]: Settlement title Hrisey has no holder - correcting!

[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.21]:INFO: law changing for the Thikana of Candhoba (c_candhoba):
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.21]:---> current succession law for c_candhoba: (None)
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.21]:---> current gender law for c_candhoba: Agnatic
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.21]:---> Received Title From: Raja Mattat the Fat, Primary Title: d_medapata
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.21]:---> current succession law for d_medapata: Primogeniture
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.21]:---> INFO: c_candhoba has to be manually corrected to Primogeniture succession
[messagehandler.cpp:611]: §YKosmas Sarantapechos§! wants to Become Paragon of Virtue.
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.23]:Rodelinda Theodericing marries Immed of Anhalt (Spouse Finder - has claim)
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.4.26]:Shararah Hafizid marries Bextîyar Nutkani (Spouse Finder - higher tier)
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.5.7]:Eanburh Wihtgilsing marries Oshere Leodwalding (Cousin Marriage)
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.5.7]:Annual faction maintenance pulse begins
[messagehandler.cpp:611]: The Court Faction of Cherson is now §GHappy§!.
[messagehandler.cpp:611]: The Prosperity Faction of Cherson is now §YUnhappy§!.
[effectimplementation.cpp:17870]: EVENT [840.5.9]:Sheikh Shahin of Hormuz divorces Shola Rummahid.
[messagehandler.cpp:611]: §YStrategitissa Simonis of Thessalonika§! has joined the 'Prosperity Faction' faction.

This occurs May 840.

I also have another crashing issue. This occurs any time period by the look of it. It occurs whenever I open the the trade post screen.

[characterhistory.cpp:515]: Bad Father for character: Euric (1000215059)
[characterhistory.cpp:515]: Bad Father for character: Frithigar (1000215061)
[characterhistory.cpp:565]: Bad Mother for character: Ioannes (1000094576)
[characterhistory.cpp:515]: Bad Father for character: Domentziolus (1000094604)
[characterhistory.cpp:565]: Bad Mother for character: Bernard (1000094931)
[characterhistory.cpp:565]: Bad Mother for character: Wicbert (1000094952)
[characterhistory.cpp:565]: Bad Mother for character: Ava (107671)
[characterhistory.cpp:515]: Bad Father for character: Sergio (1000094276)
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_overlay_char_favor_indicator_small]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_overlay_char_favor_indicator]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_overlay_char_favor_indicator]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_hospital_level_strip]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_major_modifiers_strip]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_crown_focus_icon]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_province_bg_extended_2]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_province_bg_extended_3]
[graphics.cpp:638]: Failed to create gui object. Could not find sprite type [GFX_province_terrain_mountain]

history.cpp:255]: Executing History from -1.1.1 to 2.1.1
[history.cpp:255]: Executing History from 2.1.1 to 1000.12.25
[controlcommands.cpp:58]: Human MrHuman set as primary local
[controlcommands.cpp:52]: Human MrHuman unset as primary local
[controlcommands.cpp:58]: Human MrHuman set as primary local
[frontend.cpp:1275]:

[[ Launching SINGLEPLAYER-game ]]
Start-date: 840.3.3
Country: Makarios Kaloethes

Nope, sadly not much you or any of us can do. Use an older save ( if you're in 840, use the one from 839).

I got to test play about 600 years, and I only had to "use older save" once.

The trade post bug is a bit weird, some people have reported it but it's not reproducible for me. Are you running clean Plus?
 

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Don't know if it has been reported yet but I am getting my Roman Empire (peacefully) usurped by random characters whom have no claim to it. Once I even had a Merc Company Leader (the Sons of Ireland) get it! I have no idea what is causing it.
 

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What is the purpose of the title "k_papal_chalcedon_dead"? It's really been fucking my game up. The game has been recognizing two pope's, one that has been in control of the Prince-Bisrophic of Rome (in addition to the plain "k_papal_states"), and the other one is holding just "k_papal_chalcedon_dead". The thing that's really buggy is that the one holding "k_papal_chalcedon_dead" is recognized as the Pope on the Religion tab, and is elected by the college of Cardinals. The other one, idk. But because of this, I can't place my Antipope's claim to the Papacy. I ended up using console out of frustration to take control of the Rome so I could mend the schism, but this problem still persists, except now I have my Antipope with just his barony, a vassal Pope (after restoring the Papacy decision), and an independent "true" Pope (as recognized by the religion tab) in control of "k_papal_chalcedon_dead".

EDIT:
Another thing scrolling over factions in the faction tab no longer gives me a description of what they like to improve their disposition

I've also been noticing this.

EDIT + EDIT: Looked back a few pages and realized someone else had already posted this and was responded to. I'll wait for a fix to come available then. Really breaking my rise from small Gaetan Republic to Consul of the Latin Empire to SPQR game haha. Just as an additional note though, I started a new clean game of Plus, without any submods, and even in 1066 there are split Popes. One in charge of Rome, and another Chalcedonian one being recognized as the Pope in the Religion tab. Dunno if this split Pope issue was occurring before 1066 or not though.
 
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Don't know if it has been reported yet but I am getting my Roman Empire (peacefully) usurped by random characters whom have no claim to it. Once I even had a Merc Company Leader (the Sons of Ireland) get it! I have no idea what is causing it.
I had the same problem, just console command give title to yourself if its getting usurped still just annex the usurping realm that's at least what I've done
 

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Nah. But I retried it with all my other mods off and it worked. Now it's time to slowly see which one caused it.

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I had the same problem, just console command give title to yourself if its getting usurped still just annex the usurping realm that's at least what I've done

My problem is that I lose all the vassals as I have no de jure land due to reorganizing the provinces decisions so I become Emperor of a whopping three duchies... (my own) and no claim on the 50ish vassals. So I guess my question is "Is there any way to avoid this?"
 

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Don't give me that look. It interacts well enough with CK2 Plus in every other way, I dunno why it messes with the realm shatter.

That look is generally reserved for those who report bugs and:

a) don't even mention they're using other mods than this one
generally because b) they think they know enough to determine what isn't the problem but not enough to know what is
and c) usually expect the CK2 Plus team to puzzle it out for them anyhow
 
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