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I'm having a problem with thos mod, related to empires. If I look at de jures, the empire flag will black, while it's name is empty. Also if inspected the whole world is considered part of the "empire". Is this because I'm running on patch 2.4.4? It happens whether or not I'm having other mods installed.

As Schwarherz mentioned, it's not a bug.

I could have it display "No De Jure Empire" instead -- but then it would also display that on the map.

Either way, the only way you'll notice this is on that de jure chart (which you really have to hunt for), and it doesn't affect anything.
 

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checksum was QEBB I think, whatever the last one was, its updated to BXAP now. don't know if u can carry saves over from previous checksums or how to prevent ckplus from auto updating for that matter. anyways...

The only way to disable auto-updates from Steam is to unsubscribe from the mod.

Previous saves should be mostly okay -- there are a couple of minor exceptions I can think of, but overall you should notice no difference.

Not sure if its a bug or just my fault but my heir has a -70 general opinion from dishonorable, he was leading armies and I wasn't really paying attention to his traits so I guess it might be from him executing and impaling everyone. bit of a shock as I was about to abdicate and let him form a new empire. I looked the trait up on the wiki it says 60months duration, is it still the same with ur mod? maybe I'll have to go to my 2nd son ;[

Not a bug, but it sounds like your heir was indeed going on a nasty killing spree.

Levels of dishonorable are reduced every 20 years. So your heir will have that for quite some time, and will never completely be rid of it.
 

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It seems that the flavor text of some heresy events only check for top liege religion. I was a Cathar Countess under Catholic Duke and King, and I get the "the Pope send out a peaceful negotiation in a heretic stronghold" event, and when the province gets converted back to Catholic the confirmation text is something like "Praise Jesus!" even though I myself is still Cathar.

Can this be changed, or something that out of your control?
 

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If you started with the 769 bookmark, and the Byzantine Empire hasn't yet taken the Abandon Iconoclasm decision, then yes -- there is no Ecumenical Patriarch. Until that happens (which it should, once there's a non-zealous emperor), the Mend Schism decision won't appear.

I had the issue pop up again, and I've identified the issue- basically, if the Basileus converts to Iconoclast, they then take the 'Create Iconoclast Patriarch' decision, which destroys the Ecumenical Patriarch title. It does seem like the Basileus is converting to Iconoclast a little often in the 1066 bookmark, though...
 

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so i have been running into a problem while playing as the roman empire. after 50 years of waiting for land to become de jure in my empire, 5 to 6 years after its no longer de jure and i have to wait another 50 years till its de jure again. this only happens with land that is restored roman provinces though, like hispania, illyria and thracia.
 

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I had the issue pop up again, and I've identified the issue- basically, if the Basileus converts to Iconoclast, they then take the 'Create Iconoclast Patriarch' decision, which destroys the Ecumenical Patriarch title. It does seem like the Basileus is converting to Iconoclast a little often in the 1066 bookmark, though...

Ah, that makes sense. It's a vanilla decision, but I'll have to look at it.

As for the Basileus converting, that's probably the Contantine's Return event firing when they're losing a holy war.
 

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so i have been running into a problem while playing as the roman empire. after 50 years of waiting for land to become de jure in my empire, 5 to 6 years after its no longer de jure and i have to wait another 50 years till its de jure again. this only happens with land that is restored roman provinces though, like hispania, illyria and thracia.

I'd need a few things answered, if you look at the OP here -- namely, what is your checksum? Is this a game started with the current mod version, or is it an old one? Are you using Ironman mode? There's been some problems with the Roman Empire title in previous versions, but they were fixed. This looks like it might be something else, but I need to know those details before I investigate.

Provided you have the right checksum, and it's a non-Ironman game started with the current version (or at least a very recent one), a save game (preferably where you're close to getting one of those kingdoms as de jure) would be much appreciated.
 

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It seems that the flavor text of some heresy events only check for top liege religion. I was a Cathar Countess under Catholic Duke and King, and I get the "the Pope send out a peaceful negotiation in a heretic stronghold" event, and when the province gets converted back to Catholic the confirmation text is something like "Praise Jesus!" even though I myself is still Cathar.

Can this be changed, or something that out of your control?

Those sound like vanilla events, but we can indeed change them -- I'll see if I can track them down.
 

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Ah, that makes sense. It's a vanilla decision, but I'll have to look at it.

As for the Basileus converting, that's probably the Contantine's Return event firing when they're losing a holy war.

What does the Constantine's Return event do? I've had a look around and can't find it in the CKII+ events folder.
 

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What does the Constantine's Return event do? I've had a look around and can't find it in the CKII+ events folder.

It's in CK2Plus_orthodox_events. It allows the emperor to become Iconoclast if they're losing a holy war.
 

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I'd need a few things answered, if you look at the OP here -- namely, what is your checksum? Is this a game started with the current mod version, or is it an old one? Are you using Ironman mode? There's been some problems with the Roman Empire title in previous versions, but they were fixed. This looks like it might be something else, but I need to know those details before I investigate.

Provided you have the right checksum, and it's a non-Ironman game started with the current version (or at least a very recent one), a save game (preferably where you're close to getting one of those kingdoms as de jure) would be much appreciated.
the mod version im using is 3.11.2, i am not in iron man mode but i am using the sorcery mod with it as well. I have no idea if the sorcery mod would affect dejure land or not though. im not quite sure how to share a save file, im quite new to actually posting on here.
 

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Seems like the best way to resolve this issue would be to alter the Mend the Schism decision, then.

What for? It's intended that, if there's no non-heretical religion head to negotiate with, the schism can't be mended.

Seeing as there's already a decision to restore the Ecumenical Patriarch (and re-activate k_orthodox) if an Orthodox emperor retakes Constantinople, that will either have to happen or Iconoclasm will need to become a non-heresy before you can potentially use the decision.

The only thing I could see doing here is lowering the requirements for the Orthodox emperor to restore k_orthodox (as 1000 Piety is pretty high). Otherwise then that? I see no issue.
 

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Started a new game in the 769 start and Charlemagne did his thing as normal. The problem arose when he took Saxony and Bavaria before Italy. Not only was he able to form the Carolingian empire but the de jure was all messed up, failing to include Italy, Aquatine, Frisia, and East Francia. reloded a save from a few months earlier and made sure to play as Karl and make sure he forms the Frankish empire and conquers Italy before forming the Carolingian empire. While Italy was de jure this time Aquatine, Frisia, and East Francia still weren't. Cant find the relevant event/decision in the files so not much more information I can give but hopefully you will be able to spot the problem.
 

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Started a new game in the 769 start and Charlemagne did his thing as normal. The problem arose when he took Saxony and Bavaria before Italy. Not only was he able to form the Carolingian empire but the de jure was all messed up, failing to include Italy, Aquatine, Frisia, and East Francia. reloded a save from a few months earlier and made sure to play as Karl and make sure he forms the Frankish empire and conquers Italy before forming the Carolingian empire. While Italy was de jure this time Aquatine, Frisia, and East Francia still weren't. Cant find the relevant event/decision in the files so not much more information I can give but hopefully you will be able to spot the problem.

Only king titles that are personally held by the former of the Carolingian Empire, or which are de jure to the Frankish Empire, should become de jure.

If that's not the case, that's a bug. If it is, then it's fine -- the other kingdoms can drift into the Carolingian Empire naturally.
 

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Hi, the game freezes and crashes on the logo and/or loading screen, i've installed the latest version of CK2+ and with HL v2.4.4. Does anyone know why this is?
 

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Hi, the game freezes and crashes on the logo and/or loading screen, i've installed the latest version of CK2+ and with HL v2.4.4. Does anyone know why this is?
That's a vanilla issue.
 

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I'm currently chancellor in the HRE and the improve relations job is constantly firing on theocracies. It went from trying to spam it on one archbishop to another, so it's definitely a result of the AI trying to improve relations on an impossible target.
 

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Hi, the game freezes and crashes on the logo and/or loading screen, i've installed the latest version of CK2+ and with HL v2.4.4. Does anyone know why this is?

Depends on whether you mean it freezes and crashes constantly and you cannot start the game or it just does this sometimes when starting.

If it's just sometimes, that's a vanilla issue, as Schwarherz mentioned.

If it's always and you can't actually fire up the mod, that means there's an issue on your end. Depending on where the crashing is occuring during the load, we could perhaps tell you where the issue might be.
 

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I'm currently chancellor in the HRE and the improve relations job is constantly firing on theocracies. It went from trying to spam it on one archbishop to another, so it's definitely a result of the AI trying to improve relations on an impossible target.

Not sure what you mean. If you mean that the AI is constantly moving you to new targets, yes -- it'll do that, and it can indeed be annoying when you're playing as a councillor to an AI overlord. It has nothing to do with the target being impossible.
 
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