CK2Plus Bug Report Thread

[Byzan]

Yes, even the autosaves are just crashing.

I have 2.04, and no matter if it's an autosave or an actual save, it simply crashes.

I could, say, resign and then seek to re-do something - it'll cras. It plays fine, but it crashes.

I play with Core, KS 1.23, Flavorful titular titles, better armies, CK2+ VIET traits and events and that's really it.

 

[schwarherz]

Yes, even the autosaves are just crashing.

I have 2.04, and no matter if it's an autosave or an actual save, it simply crashes.

I could, say, resign and then seek to re-do something - it'll cras. It plays fine, but it crashes.

I play with Core, KS 1.23, Flavorful titular titles, better armies, CK2+ VIET traits and events and that's really it.

try disabling each of the non CK2+ team created mods until it works. It sounds like it might be a conflict problem

 

[Byzan]

What do you even mean by that.

Which are non CK2+ mods. Besides VIET

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Edit: So apparently VIET may be messing it up.

Because the optional stuff and required stuff is not screwing it up. It's just the VIET stuff

 

[HBar]

Playing as the Empire of Khazaria, when I form the titular Kingdom of Israel from the religion tab, the Kingdom of Crimea vanishes from my Laws tab. Running 2.04.0 with Flavorful Titular Titles and Better Armies.

I made a more detailed post with screenshots and a savegame file that's stuck in the queue, but I'm making this post to say that it's also reproducible from the 867 start as Khazaria by using the console:

give_title k_crimea 74025
give_title e_khazaria 74025
give_title c_jerusalem 74025
piety
cash

Look at the laws tab, Khazaria and Crimea are both there. Go to the religion tab and create Israel. Then go back to the laws tab, and Crimea is gone.

Strangely, it seems to only happen to some kingdoms and not others. Try the above with k_cuman instead of k_crimea, and it's still in the laws panel after forming Israel.

 

[schwarherz]

Playing as the Empire of Khazaria, when I form the titular Kingdom of Israel from the religion tab, the Kingdom of Crimea vanishes from my Laws tab. Running 2.04.0 with Flavorful Titular Titles and Better Armies.

I made a more detailed post with screenshots and a savegame file that's stuck in the queue, but I'm making this post to say that it's also reproducible from the 867 start as Khazaria by using the console:

give_title k_crimea 74025
give_title e_khazaria 74025
give_title c_jerusalem 74025
piety
cash

Look at the laws tab, Khazaria and Crimea are both there. Go to the religion tab and create Israel. Then go back to the laws tab, and Crimea is gone.

Strangely, it seems to only happen to some kingdoms and not others. Try the above with k_cuman instead of k_crimea, and it's still in the laws panel after forming Israel.

Let me know if the problem persists after we release 2.05.0, It may be fixed already. Feel free to download the dev version from GitHub and try it out. (sorry, saves won't be compatible). Also keep in mind that this MAY be a vanilla problem of some sort.

 

[HBar]

Sure. It still persists with the latest dev version (the new starting map looks great by the way).

I've narrowed down the issue: as Mashiah, you can only see laws for kingdoms where you personally have a holding. In Crimea, I only had two vassal dukes and no holdings of my own. When I gave myself the county of Crimea, the kingdom of Crimea reappeared in the laws panel. Then I gave the county away, and the kingdom disappeared from the laws panel again.

 

[schwarherz]

Sure. It still persists with the latest dev version (the new starting map looks great by the way).

I've narrowed down the issue: as Mashiah, you can only see laws for kingdoms where you personally have a holding. In Crimea, I only had two vassal dukes and no holdings of my own. When I gave myself the county of Crimea, the kingdom of Crimea reappeared in the laws panel. Then I gave the county away, and the kingdom disappeared from the laws panel again.

Sounds like a vanilla issue of some sort based around the fact that k_israel is a titular title.

 

[sagimine1]

Is there reason why my AI laws that I have switch to either true cognatic or enatic cognatic laws revert back to agnatic? I post this on multiple thread and hopefully here I will receive an answer.

 

[CaesarVincens]

Sure. It still persists with the latest dev version (the new starting map looks great by the way).

I've narrowed down the issue: as Mashiah, you can only see laws for kingdoms where you personally have a holding. In Crimea, I only had two vassal dukes and no holdings of my own. When I gave myself the county of Crimea, the kingdom of Crimea reappeared in the laws panel. Then I gave the county away, and the kingdom disappeared from the laws panel again.

This is definitely a vanilla issue regarding titular kingdoms.

Is there reason why my AI laws that I have switch to either true cognatic or enatic cognatic laws revert back to agnatic? I post this on multiple thread and hopefully here I will receive an answer.

It may have to do with the conditions in the laws. Although, what I'm thinking shouldn't apply in the case of cognatic, only enatic(-cognatic). However, succession laws on secondary titles do get sort of wonky (vanilla mechanics), particularly with titles of duke and lower tier. If you hand out a duke title that you acquired after primary title, it may not actually change its succession laws.

 

[Emilersej]

I posted this in the main thread, then remembered the green bug thread sign in the OP. Here is some pasta, bon appetit.

I played this mod from 867 (or whatever) and onwards, and there were no problems whatsoever, until 962. Now it crashes at some random point shortly after that year. I use the CK"+ core along with the Vanilla hordes, flavourful titular titles and better armies modules. Also I use VIET Assets, VIET events for CK2+ and VIET traits for CK2+. They are supposed to be compatible. I'd like to know what the cause is, if anyone has any idea.

 

[schwarherz]

I posted this in the main thread, then remembered the green bug thread sign in the OP. Here is some pasta, bon appetit.

I played this mod from 867 (or whatever) and onwards, and there were no problems whatsoever, until 962. Now it crashes at some random point shortly after that year. I use the CK"+ core along with the Vanilla hordes, flavourful titular titles and better armies modules. Also I use VIET Assets, VIET events for CK2+ and VIET traits for CK2+. They are supposed to be compatible. I'd like to know what the cause is, if anyone has any idea.

it's probably the viet stuff. cybr focuses more on keeping up to date with project balance so the ck2+ compatibility stuff sometimes lags behind.

 

[sagimine1]

This is definitely a vanilla issue regarding titular kingdoms.



It may have to do with the conditions in the laws. Although, what I'm thinking shouldn't apply in the case of cognatic, only enatic(-cognatic). However, succession laws on secondary titles do get sort of wonky (vanilla mechanics), particularly with titles of duke and lower tier. If you hand out a duke title that you acquired after primary title, it may not actually change its succession laws.

The funny thing about that is that I used Notepad+ to replace all aganatic laws in true_cognatic laws. The end result is that of all baronies to kingdoms somehow have a notepad+ of their own and revert my change.

 

[HBar]

Sounds like a vanilla issue of some sort based around the fact that k_israel is a titular title.

And specifically a titular kingdom. I saw that the Caliphate is a duchy and doesn't have this problem, so I modified my own files to make it d_israel in:

gfx\flags\k_israel.tga
events\religious_events.txt
localisation\0_titles.csv
common\landed_titles\01_religious_heads.txt

The "Duchy" of Israel doesn't sound as satisfying, but it works.

(edit: I also just tried e_israel, but the problem returns at that level and it also takes three kingdoms to form.)

 

[Doukan]

Okay so I don't really know if this would count as "bug", but in my recent games I've been noticing a very large number of father-daughter relationships.
At one point, the kings of Navarre England France Sicily and the Byzantine emperor were getting it on with their kids
the French king couldn't make his mind up and kept swapping, before you ask, none of them are Zoroastrian or Valyrian

Is this normal? It does happen sometimes in Vanilla but with the latest CK + it's happening with me a lot, my HRE character has had no less than than three "I think she fancies me" in the last year in regards to different daughters...

 

[Kreliann]

I have been unable to form an empire so far.

Im playing a Nord Nord, refusing to change my culture to one of the derivates. I conquered enough to have 5 kingdoms and around 170 realm size. I have been waiting for some years now (more than 3) and still no option to create an empire

 

[schwarherz]

I have been unable to form an empire so far.

Im playing a Nord Nord, refusing to change my culture to one of the derivates. I conquered enough to have 5 kingdoms and around 170 realm size. I have been waiting for some years now (more than 3) and still no option to create an empire

Your wording leads me to wonder. How many kingdom titles do you hold? Not the amount of land for those kingdoms, how many actual kingdom titles? Also where and what culture? It's possible we have a gap in our cultural empires.

 

[Kreliann]

My character culture is Norse (vanilla norse)
I have the actual Kingdom Titles of Norway, Sweden, Ireland, Iceland, and Dublin.

 

[Athalcor]

Your wording leads me to wonder. How many kingdom titles do you hold? Not the amount of land for those kingdoms, how many actual kingdom titles? Also where and what culture? It's possible we have a gap in our cultural empires.

The biggest gap in the cultural empires thing is the absence of a 'German Empire'. Yes, it sounds ridiculous but in my current game (starting in 867), I started as Bavaria and expanded southwards. I cannot form the Italian Empire as I am not an Italian and I do not hold enough de jure lands to become HRE. Maybe the HRE should not be de jure from the game start and should have a special mechanism for its creation?

 

[schwarherz]

The biggest gap in the cultural empires thing is the absence of a 'German Empire'. Yes, it sounds ridiculous but in my current game (starting in 867), I started as Bavaria and expanded southwards. I cannot form the Italian Empire as I am not an Italian and I do not hold enough de jure lands to become HRE. Maybe the HRE should not be de jure from the game start and should have a special mechanism for its creation?

Look at our dev version in the empires list in the landed titles folder It was a pet peeve of mine as well, so it was one of the first things I added for 2.05.0

 

[Kreliann]

no empire can be created: screenshots

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/703980765966333634/4289304127B8EEBBE1508D600B5101A4427A7AB1/

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/703980765966336477/CA8C45762290EEA4CBE7F6268E2E7FA89A25D876/