CK2 Video Presentation from E3
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Dear god I hope not. No Political map would be suicidal. it's what makes Paradox games so great. taking them out would be like taking out the ball out of the game of football. if thats true I do not understand that decision
ok check this than form the video. you can see he has 12 vassals....
but check the enormous amount of titles he has!
probably not all are there
edit: now that I look at it...is it just me or are the CoA's a bit weird? they seem not to be in teh center.
Not being able to paint the world in your colour, or even not being able to watch your colour grow, is going to be difficult to get used to. I think they should make a political map. Let people play as they like. The more options you give, the better.
Moving the map is so...smooth, this time around. And yeah, I'll be using for the terrain map for the first time, this is beautiful. Just look at those rivers. Look at them.
I typically never leave the diplomatic map view in Crusader Kings so I'm not so fussed about the lack of paint. Though, the Civilization games also only show the borders and it is still satisfying to watch your country grow in size.
Where are all the vassals? Are they kept on a separate map viewing mode? This seems a little awkward.
I'm still really excited for this game!
Where are all the vassals? Are they kept on a separate map viewing mode? This seems a little awkward.
I'm still really excited for this game!
So it's a bit older video or the E3 is still going on?
Sorry guys, I can't see all the prettiness of the map you're talking about. I just can't pay attention to rivers or whatsit, when I see the mess counties in Poland are. That's all discounting all the blobbiness of provinces (I mean, the shapes, look like stains on a shirt, not administrative divisions).
Sorry guys, I can't see all the prettiness of the map you're talking about. I just can't pay attention to rivers or whatsit, when I see the mess counties in Poland are. That's all discounting all the blobbiness of provinces (I mean, the shapes, look like stains on a shirt, not administrative divisions).
Really?? ... seriously??. ... that county setup might not be to your liking means that you cannot appreciate ANYTHING about the map?? ... at all??
Provinces in CK2 do not really follow any "historical borders", as borders back then were not exactly 100% accurate, and we wanted to keep the vaguenes there.
Your right, the map is great except for (what I've seen of) the county setup. (@ Kalontas: that's not only a problem in Poland.)
Yeah, but it seems from previous screenshots/videos that you altered provinces in England and France to historically realistic borders, while in Poland, Eastern Germany and Baltics we see CK1 borders. Would you rework other regions as well?
The map is beyond my wildest dreams. I love the vast tracts of lands towards the Urals.
Dear god I hope not. No Political map would be suicidal. it's what makes Paradox games so great. taking them out would be like taking out the ball out of the game of football. if thats true I do not understand that decision
Removing the political map entirely wilil piss of tons of people and be a terribly dumb thing to do. I can't belive they'll do it. Even if their new borders are great, it's still nice to zoom out and see the world all colored in your color.
"We don't like people having to spend all their time in political mode, so we're going to improve the terrain map. But just in case that doesn't work we'll remove the political mode entirely. THAT'LL teach `em!"
Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It's like when they didn't bother putting spacebar pause into one of the games because they, personally, didn't use it in the office.
I know it's not only Poland, it's just the area I'm most familiar with, and as such, I notice the discrepancies first.
Being vague is one thing, and behing horrendously wrong on geographical and historical level is another. I mean, what in the name of sanity is Sambia doing up there? Why is province named Marienburg located where Konigsberg should really be (and is it Pregolya or Neman (alias Memel) flowing in that fake Sambia)? What happened to the lands near Noteć (alias Netz), aka southern reaches of Pomerania in Middle Ages? There's no province for them, not can they be accounted as lying in any remaining pommeranian provinces. I could go on, because it looks about as bad as it's possible.
If you want, I can send you a map I made a couple of weeks ago with more-or-less the same province number as the basic CK map, but way more accurate. I would only need to extend it to Prussia, and it'd be ready to go. Really, I want to help, for what I see in those screenshots is... poor.
Being vague is one thing, and behing horrendously wrong on geographical and historical level is another. I mean, what in the name of sanity is Sambia doing up there? Why is province named Marienburg located where Konigsberg should really be (and is it Pregolya or Neman (alias Memel) flowing in that fake Sambia)? What happened to the lands near Noteć (alias Netz), aka southern reaches of Pomerania in Middle Ages? There's no province for them, not can they be accounted as lying in any remaining pommeranian provinces. I could go on, because it looks about as bad as it's possible.
If you want, I can send you a map I made a couple of weeks ago with more-or-less the same province number as the basic CK map, but way more accurate. I would only need to extend it to Prussia, and it'd be ready to go. Really, I want to help, for what I see in those screenshots is... poor.
Only thing that I cared to check was the first what you said Sambia... It is in a right place. Can you say how your image of Poland is right? Can you say where you read that? Mine come from most easiest place: wikipedia... Didnt bother to look up anymore about your post
Personally, I only stayed in political mapmode in older Paradox games because I found the terrain map horrible. However, this one looks stunning! If I ever get a laptop that can run CKII, I'll probably never need that political mapmode again.
I also find the 'threats' somewhat silly. "We want a political mapmode, or else we'll be pissed off and you'll regret it! Somehow!" If the lack of a map tickles you that much, well... Don't play it?
I also find the 'threats' somewhat silly. "We want a political mapmode, or else we'll be pissed off and you'll regret it! Somehow!" If the lack of a map tickles you that much, well... Don't play it?
After writing that post, I thought about Sambia as well, but I know where my confusion comes from. Check coast of Prussia in the screenshots from CK2, and check the real coast of Prussia. They just do not match: I can't find where Sambia should really lie on that map.
My map consists of borders drawn over actual historical map from a historical atlas via Wikipedia. I think I did add a province or two here or there, but it's generally the same thing.
no one commenting on the fact we can start at ANY DAY between 1066-1452(?), or is this common knowledge already?