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Ah crap. I was looking forward to this game too. :sad:

There is a high likelihood of a non-steam version for some portals.
 

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according to johans earlier statement, steam will be needed to run as well, if you get it from the box...

I really hope for a non-steam version then, but I'll buy it either way, simply because I've been waiting for this for years, and got my name in :)
 

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Yeah same here, I'd like a none steam version but it's not a deal breaker.
 

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You know, the people who run steam are just ordinary people. They're not evil, just successful. Why such a big deal?

Seeing as Johan has been looking at this thread, any chance of a hint on a pre-order date?
 

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don't think anyone has been bashing the people behind steam? I personally just have a problem, which not alot seems to have, and have gotten no help from their customer service, so I'd rather not use the platform, unless it's really neccesary... Otherwise I like steam, has alot of good stuff as well :)
 

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don't think anyone has been bashing the people behind steam?

Perhaps not on this thread, but I've seen more vitriol about steam than any other on-line shop ever. There is no reason for it, other than teenagers flexing their impotent muscles. There are so many things out there to get worked up over, but so many people choose to get angry about a computer game shop. Might be because these kids feel they have so little control over their lives that they get angry about something they can control - how they install their computer games. Sorry to put people down here, and not including you A_Dane, but it's just purile.
 

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I don't really mind that it uses Steam since a lot of my games are on Steam.
 

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Would we benefit from pre-orders on Steam?

Personally I just want it on my account and ready to go. I've sold some DVDs and have the money sitting in my paypal account so the payment for CK2 doesn't have to come from my family budget and I'd just like to have it bought rather than waiting to buy. From the devs point of view I believe it is beneficial to have high pre-order and day-one purchases because it makes it easier to secure funding for future projects.
 

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Perhaps not on this thread, but I've seen more vitriol about steam than any other on-line shop ever.

EAs Origin !
Don't know about other countries but it gets bashed very hard here in germany, because of some strange eula...

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Any word if beta patches are only available for steam users?
 

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You know, the people who run steam are just ordinary people. They're not evil, just successful. Why such a big deal?

Seeing as Johan has been looking at this thread, any chance of a hint on a pre-order date?

It's not the people that run steam that worries most it's the future of Steam and the future of their games they bought through them should something happen to Steam in the future. Now you may not care to play games that are 10-20 years old but many of us do. In fact I still play games nearly 30 years old from the Commodore 64 days because I can and because I have the game disks and material in MY POSSESSION and backed up locally.

The other thing is Steam takes away our ability to SELL USED GAMES, there is no other medium that I can think of that we can buy that we can't sell down the road if we so choose. Music, Books, hardware everything but silly software and games. These flippin developers/publishers of computer games think their stuff is priceless and that's pretty ridiculous compared to every other medium out there. This is also why I will not buy anymore gaming software brand new or upon release. If they can't allow me the freedom to sell my games after I'm done with them then I can't be taxed to help support them.
 

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It's not the people that run steam that worries most it's the future of Steam and the future of their games they bought through them should something happen to Steam in the future. Now you may not care to play games that are 10-20 years old but many of us do. In fact I still play games nearly 30 years old from the Commodore 64 days because I can and because I have the game disks and material in MY POSSESSION and backed up locally.

The other thing is Steam takes away our ability to SELL USED GAMES, there is no other medium that I can think of that we can buy that we can't sell down the road if we so choose. Music, Books, hardware everything but silly software and games. These flippin developers/publishers of computer games think their stuff is priceless and that's pretty ridiculous compared to every other medium out there. This is also why I will not buy anymore gaming software brand new or upon release. If they can't allow me the freedom to sell my games after I'm done with them then I can't be taxed to help support them.

...it is priceless tho, you cant hold it like Music, Books, hardware
 

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Wow, this is really surprising. I have to admit that I never thought Paradox of all companies would go this route.
 
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