Ck2 lets you play mods in iron man mode, why not eu4?

[mocoman2001]

- Now possible to play in Ironman mode with the ruler designer and mods (but you won't get achievements)

thats from the ck2 patch notes. When will we get this in eu4? i want my iron man mode and i want to play it with mods or what ever. I don't care about the achievements. Also i want to be able to play it with other settings.

 

[TheBloke]

I very much want this too.

I am confident it will come soon to eu4. They only just added ironman to CK2 so it was still 'fresh' and easy to add quickly there.

More importantly, ck2 has been out for two years with out ironman, people have got very used to playing with mods and many play exclusively with mods. Also, there was a paid expansion that was unusable in ironman. For all these reasons it would have been top priority to add mod support to ironman for ck2.

Now it's been done in that game I am very confident they will bring it to eu4. Maybe even in 1.4, but if not then I am confident for 1.5.

 

[Xara]

Not quite sure what is forcing you to hit reload, because if you don't, you're already in a self-imposed ironman

 

[wolfing]

i'm waiting for this too, been asking for it for a long time, glad it's finally coming

 

[Comradebot]

Not quite sure what is forcing you to hit reload, because if you don't, you're already in a self-imposed ironman

Why do you care if other people want to use achievement-less Ironman in their mod games? If the option existed (and given that CKII now has it, EUIV will almost certainly in the near future) it would change absolutely nothing about your personal EUIV experience if you opt to never, ever use the option.

 

[unmerged(463193)]

i'm pretty sure this will come in an upcoming expansion/patch. PI is pretty good at listening to feedback.

 

[Xara]

Why do you care if other people want to use achievement-less Ironman in their mod games? If the option existed (and given that CKII now has it, EUIV will almost certainly in the near future) it would change absolutely nothing about your personal EUIV experience if you opt to never, ever use the option.

Calm down there sparky

If it gets added, great, but nothing stops you from using as many mods as you want and, you know, having some willpower to not reload when anything goes bad

 

[Mann42]

When will we get this in eu4?

Considering that this feature was added to CK2 after the last patch EU4 has released, during the time window of no EU4 patches while we're waiting for the 1.4 & expansion patch, I think it's premature to expect this feature to magically appear in EU4 until said the next patch.

Since the next patch is expected in January, and no sooner, it's futile to expect it before then. If it doesn't roll out as part of 1.4, then that would be a good time to ask. Otherwise, have patience.

 

[mocoman2001]

Considering that this feature was added to CK2 after the last patch EU4 has released, during the time window of no EU4 patches while we're waiting for the 1.4 & expansion patch, I think it's premature to expect this feature to magically appear in EU4 until said the next patch.

Since the next patch is expected in January, and no sooner, it's futile to expect it before then. If it doesn't roll out as part of 1.4, then that would be a good time to ask. Otherwise, have patience.

Im not expecting it to magically appear, but i sure as hell expecting it with in a patch or 2 ;p I bin bitching about it off an on since release now ;p

 

[Brawler]

I also wish you could turn off lucky nations in Ironman. Come on Santa!

 

[Gamerofthegame]

Because cheevos.

Just use your willpower and don't reload if you want to use mods or lucky nations. That's half the entire point of iron mode.

 

[Freebot]

Ironman junkies are so demanding!

 

[zodium]

Not quite sure what is forcing you to hit reload, because if you don't, you're already in a self-imposed ironman

Are you being facetious, or are you really proposing that willfully choosing not to reload is equivalent to not being able to reload?

 

[mocoman2001]

Calm down there sparky

If it gets added, great, but nothing stops you from using as many mods as you want and, you know, having some willpower to not reload when anything goes bad

According to science will power is not an infinite resource. My will power is better spent on other things like not ordering a pizza and having a salad instead. Why should i waste my will power resiting cheating when theirs an option for it ;p On that note, other then one ck2 save game i haven't played a single eu4 game with out iron man. I have a hard time resisting cheating in single player games (very morally against cheating in multiplayer games though so that's never bin a factor), so i use the option not to cheat, but i see all these cools mods and i want to taste them. I cant have both worlds so i choose not being able to cheat over mods.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego_depletion

Ironamn ck2 fallowed by a iron man eu4. Now that sounds like a fun extended game ;p

 

[Freebot]

Are you being facetious, or are you really proposing that willfully choosing not to reload is equivalent to not being able to reload?

Yes, it is.

 

[Xara]

Are you being facetious, or are you really proposing that willfully choosing not to reload is equivalent to not being able to reload?

But it is. The result is identical. If you do not reload you receive the same effect as someone who cannot reload.

 

[mocoman2001]

But it is. The result is identical. If you do not reload you receive the same effect as someone who cannot reload.

The results are, but the experience is not. Choosing not to reload stills give the option to, not having the option makes the game more intense for me.

 

[zodium]

But it is. The result is identical. If you do not reload you receive the same effect as someone who cannot reload.

No, you don't? I mean, the computer does the same thing, of course, but the psychological experience is obviously completely different. To take an extreme example from my own life, I chose not to eat dinner last week. Another time, when I lived in Hong Kong, I mismanaged my money and couldn't buy dinner for the last day of the month. I can assure you that, and let me put this in no uncertain terms, the two experiences were exactly nothing alike, even though the result was the same: I didn't eat dinner.

 

[Freebot]

The results are, but the experience is not. Choosing not to reload stills give the option to, not having the option makes the game more intense for me.

Okay, then make this house rule: if you find yourself reloading to change a gameplay outcome, you exit the game and delete your saves. Self-imposed Ironman without having to spend development or debugging manpower on the project.

 

[Brawler]

Punishing yourself is not the same as having restrictions placed on you that forces you to trigger fight or flight response.

I have no problem NOT save scumming playing non ironman. However when playing a non ironman game I know I have the ability to save scum even though I will not and do not use it. This in turn still provides a 'safety net' that allows me to not really care about what I'm doing because nothing is 'final'. When I play an ironman game I do not have this option available so I do things that I wouldn't normally do to pull myself out of sticky situations like get maximum loans and hire mass mercenaries etc just so I do not lose any ground. This fight or flight trigger is what makes ironman games so appealing.