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Well, if we're still missing 867 formations for k_poland and e_wendish, I might as well present mine from the Krakow Challenge:

Kingdom of Poland, 891: http://i.imgur.com/YkuDKXn.jpg
Wendish Empire, 917: http://i.imgur.com/KzHq4hk.jpg

As I said, though, that's a Krakow start, so it's probably a lot slower then a duchy-level start. :)

EDIT: Hahaha, beaten by a year and 10 minutes. C'est la vie. :)
 

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Since nobody has said they've done it by now, I'll put my Sweden forward:

TmPj6o2.png

Ignore the Muslim interface, I just converted as the Umayyads have sent missionaries my way after an Asturias invasion :happy:
Svíþjóð start, 867
 

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Hey! It has to be formed to get the record...none of that "instant before I did it" nonsense in THIS records thread!
 

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Well, since so few are coming forth.... I didnt go for speed though. Neither is the steam cloud... shitty system ffs.

-- Kingdoms

France 1003.10.18
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868915741/BB8BD2EB15E9913D585A229A22A8831A6332AE1F/

Turkestan 957.5.9
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868905415/08D9EF50564B953A752289F9DBAB064721E2CB67/

Syria 985.2.23
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868899253/D79E9829164D6B2740B330BB9180DF08996C030A/

Sicily 959.10.18
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868893779/CA2F965B533C204CF137EAE833098663DF82FE81/

Serbia 962.2.16
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868881367/20B1259E44CBE429325DB610F07759733D41999A/

Ruthenia 957.10.13
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868864790/2EBAC4156F3C745EE877FCDA4EA6E8EA45F5EB81/

Pommerania 913.9.23
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868851269/DCA263385716C0D5B06D8E6A67EA89B12256F2BA/

Aquitaine 984.3.11
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868844116/AEA878EFFF0CBD2FE1A6A9D35CCF4CE56F2893D0/

Lithuania 959.10.18
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868835685/CA3F15E4EF273CCE710D8F908FCD55C5AECB0A46/

Hungary 973.10.30
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868828174/DB6DEF024979B7E25DB887AB2F120E6C1D2784BD/

Croatia 957.5.9
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868809231/FDCF4D2FB30AD00A933A6CBF2F0804DC76595843/

Denmark 906.5.3
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868815386/B3A95A5DEEB7F962C25530EDC948D9FDDE98A636/

England 920.11.23
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868821182/EE257BDD64AFB461FD35F631CCE6BDDADD2E1872/

Anatolia 984.3.31
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868664464/E650494CFC108C5EF78B7024EF551B756D1EF787/

Arabia 1001.5.2
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868802058/F8A663A30257773FF5CC9F2F45118E80BE61E952/

--- Empires

Russia 990.11.20
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868594092/0DE2F2216BE35FBC4429FF552D18B41E69ED171D/

Scandinavia 904.7.18
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595881688868638712/FD18FF09CFEFB2CBAC2C2675AFDA1149184ACEEC/


There are more, but the steam cloud doesnt want to cooperate atm.
 

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Well, if we're still missing 867 formations for k_poland and e_wendish, I might as well present mine from the Krakow Challenge:

Kingdom of Poland, 891: http://i.imgur.com/YkuDKXn.jpg
Wendish Empire, 917: http://i.imgur.com/KzHq4hk.jpg

As I said, though, that's a Krakow start, so it's probably a lot slower then a duchy-level start. :)

EDIT: Hahaha, beaten by a year and 10 minutes. C'est la vie. :)

Nice one, and it beats out my 921 Wendish Empire by a few years where I started as the Chief of Wologoszcz
 

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Wow that were tons of records. I hope I got all the new ones and sorted out the invalid ones right (Aquitaine and France). If something's wrong tell me.
The OP looks much better now ;)

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Finally another religious formation ;)
Someone really should bring forth a Saoshyant. I am curious how fast it is possible to do.
 
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I am inspired to do a West African reformation; unfortunately, I noticed that West African Paganism still appears to be broken. They're not getting their attrition bonuses that would otherwise kill off the invading Muslim armies. Sad :(
 

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I am inspired to do a West African reformation; unfortunately, I noticed that West African Paganism still appears to be broken. They're not getting their attrition bonuses that would otherwise kill off the invading Muslim armies. Sad :(

Weird. In the religious files it looks as if they should be as defensive as the Slavs and the Finns.
 

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Weird. In the religious files it looks as if they should be as defensive as the Slavs and the Finns.

Yes, the description for their tooltip says they should be as well. But looking in my religion file, they are missing the "defensive_attrition = yes" line, so they're either still lacking, or I need to rebuild the game (already verified files).
 

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I am inspired to do a West African reformation; unfortunately, I noticed that West African Paganism still appears to be broken. They're not getting their attrition bonuses that would otherwise kill off the invading Muslim armies. Sad :(
Yeah, west africans are completely broken. No defensive attrition, can put medium crown law unreformed (and probably higher, but I didn't tested), vassals get annoyed if levies are raised too long (when unreformed). It's really hard to get back the holy sites against stronger muslims, with light infantry culture, especially when the Umayyad gets Mauritania too. They can also put Ultimo, but I don't know if it's intentional or not.
 

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Yeah, west africans are completely broken. No defensive attrition, can put medium crown law unreformed (and probably higher, but I didn't tested), vassals get annoyed if levies are raised too long (when unreformed). It's really hard to get back the holy sites against stronger muslims, with light infantry culture, especially when the Umayyad gets Mauritania too. They can also put Ultimo, but I don't know if it's intentional or not.

Consider filing a bug report. West African Paganism seems to have been forgotten in most of those lengthy exception lists.
 

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Not sure if this counts or not because I used ruler designer with every trait set to 0. The bases of the stats are low it's just the traits that pump them up so much. I was having some real difficulty playing as the Karens so I decided to just say doodle it and see how fast a real Saoshyant could restore and further Sassanid rule to the world. Turns out if you have above 20 in every stat you can basically say toodle you to the entire world and disregard truces. You still get buttloads of prestige (I would have like 90,000 if not for the truce breakings. But holy wars, holy wars holy wars. God DAMN holy wars. The records I am going for (if this counts because lolrulerdesigner) are old gods start quickest Persian Empire, quickest zoroastrian restoration, most character piety. (Feel free to count it for more though if it breaks any other ones or sets them.) Started in place of the Karens with Ardeshir Sassanid IV, rightful heir to the empire of Persia and savior of the world.
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878 11 20 Persian Empire (Blitzkriegs work so well in this patch, you just become an unstoppable steamroller once you cross the 20k troop count.)

881 6 20 Zoroastrian Church

15.2k Piety on Ardeshir IV Sassanid "The Saoshyant"
 
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Not sure if this counts or not because I used ruler designer with every trait set to 0. The bases of the stats are low it's just the traits that pump them up so much. I was having some real difficulty playing as the Karens so I decided to just say doodle it and see how fast a real Saoshyant could restore and further Sassanid rule to the world. Turns out if you have above 20 in every stat you can basically say toodle do you to the entire world and disregard truces. You still get buttloads of prestige (I would have like 90,000 if not for the truce breakings. But holy wars, holy wars holy wars. God DAMN holy wars. The records I am going for (if this counts because lolrulerdesigner) are old gods start quickest Persian Empire, quickest zoroastrian restoration, most character piety. (Feel free to count it for more though if it breaks any other ones or sets them.) Started in place of the Karens with Ardeshir Sassanid IV, rightful heir to the empire of Persia and savior of the world.
kfGvB.jpg
7ues.jpg
D6wzV.jpg

878 11 20 Persian Empire (Blitzkriegs work so well in this patch, you just become an unstoppable steamroller once you cross the 20k troop count.)

881 6 20 Zoroastrian Church

15.2k Piety on Ardeshir IV Sassanid "The Saoshyant"

Despite all the stats, how did that give you enough troops to fight the Saffarids/Abbasids/Uber Hungary etc.? I just can't see how having high stats would magically give you the Mongol doomstacks you would likely need to accomplish that so fast.
 
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Wow that were tons of records. I hope I got all the new ones and sorted out the invalid ones right (Aquitaine and France).

Hm. Why do you consider them invalid? I included them because they pass the qualification (formed, not usurped, after the title had become destroyed). I agree if you say it's a bit of a pointless exercise to destroy a title from the outside so you can form it anew. It just happened to happen like that in my game without me trying to. /shrug But you make the rules. I don't much care to argue in this case, it's cool either way.