CK2 Development Diary #9 The secret to success

[Adrianople]

I don't mean to go off topic, but the mention of pirates bring something important up: naval battles. The navies are incredibly boring, and their only use is as a rather useful transportation method. However, things such as blockades, battles, and other things are non-existant for CK2, despite the rich naval history that happened, such as the invasions of Sicily, Apulia, etc.

 

[SleepyIX]

I am excited for this!

 

[Derdiedas]

Can you identify what these icons are for?

Making the Norse faith even more awesomer when the rest of the pagans gets zilch as usual?

 

[Ruisuki]

Whens the redesign of the Call to arms system coming?

 

[kmh42]

I don't mean to go off topic, but the mention of pirates bring something important up: naval battles. The navies are incredibly boring, and their only use is as a rather useful transportation method. However, things such as blockades, battles, and other things are non-existant for CK2, despite the rich naval history that happened, such as the invasions of Sicily, Apulia, etc.

I personally hope so much for naval mechanic. I think it's the only part what CKII completely lacks and cannot be done with mods.

 

[alex5050]

oh yeah

 

[Ruisuki]

I personally hope so much for naval mechanic. I think it's the only part what CKII completely lacks and cannot be done with mods.

I cant be sure if it was a dev who denied there being naval dlc coming in the future...wish I could remember. Do you know any good mods for that?

 

[Rory1237]

I don't mean to go off topic, but the mention of pirates bring something important up: naval battles. The navies are incredibly boring, and their only use is as a rather useful transportation method. However, things such as blockades, battles, and other things are non-existant for CK2, despite the rich naval history that happened, such as the invasions of Sicily, Apulia, etc.

Another example being the Fourth Crusade with the Venetians using their ships as a form of siege weapon as Constantinople while the Franks attacked from land. In fact, they were used to a greater result than the Frankish land siege.

Likewise the Venetian fleet had previously destroyed the Fatimid fleet allowing the Kingdom of Jerusalem to receive supplies relatively unhindered.

Naval combat and siege warfare are something which I feel desperately needs some love. It is needed both because it makes sense with historical precedence and s frustrating to not be able to employ a powerful navy, such as the the Venetian navy, to hold off an invasion which your own army cannot withstand. It sucks controlling the seas but having to sit helplessly as an invasion sails down the Adriatic, Baltic or through the Bosphorus.

 

[Dusk313]

Which icon is crushed by elephant?

And I think that angry water droplet could be cholera.

The drop could be gout. Well, in Portuguese both drop and gout are translated as 'gota'.

 

[Angelos]

Constantinople had in fact been attacked several times from the sea, even without a particularly important land siege effort o go along. Avars, Russ, Arabs have all tried some surprise attack from the sea. Control of the seas was essential for imperial security and should be better represented. Let us not forget that even Paris was sacked from the sea (well, from the river in that case) by the Vikings, completely out of the blue. A well placed Frankish fleet in the mouth of the Seine would have easily averted that !

 

[kmh42]

I cant be sure if it was a dev who denied there being naval dlc coming in the future...wish I could remember. Do you know any good mods for that?

I don't know a single mod that has anything to do with naval. That's why a say "cannot be done with mods". Do you remember when such a comment was made? The dev team change greatly a half year ago maybe they over thought that.

 

[Wagonlitz]

I personally hope so much for naval mechanic. I think it's the only part what CKII completely lacks and cannot be done with mods.

As far as I remember naval battles and blockades were supposed to be in the game from the start, but some problem arose and it wasn't possible to solve it so the systems were scrapped. Hence why you e.g. have a pirate faction in the game files (assuming it hasn't been removed; but it was there as recently as around half a year ago). You need to remember that back before the Steam Summer sale of 2012 (which was when CKII really took off) PI was a much smaller company where often hard decision had to be taken like e.g. axing a mechanic due to severe problems.

The drop could be gout. Well, in Portuguese both drop and gout are translated as 'gota'.

I rather doubt they would use Portuguese words for the trait icons.

 

[Yakman]

Constantinople had in fact been attacked several times from the sea, even without a particularly important land siege effort o go along. Avars, Russ, Arabs have all tried some surprise attack from the sea. Control of the seas was essential for imperial security and should be better represented. Let us not forget that even Paris was sacked from the sea (well, from the river in that case) by the Vikings, completely out of the blue. A well placed Frankish fleet in the mouth of the Seine would have easily averted that !

or what they eventually did - build fortified bridges.

 

[Ornlu Wolfjarl]

Can you identify what these icons are for?

Ok let's give it a try, starting from left to right, top to bottom:

1) One-eyed
2) Maimed arm
3) Maimed leg
4) No jaw
5) Cow
6) Fox
7) Strong
9) Weak
10) Frankenstein
11) Too much crusading in the sun
12) This person spends their days in the outhouse
13) Radioactive vomit
14) Headache
15) Backaches
16) Chickenpox
17) Sores
18) Alien
19) No sleep
20) Senile
21) The earth ripped apart and swallowed this person (on a serious note, the colors make it really hard to tell what's there)
22) Liver failure
23) Loading
24) Flu
25) This person has turned into angry water
26) Footsores
27) This person has turned into scary tomato
28) This person has voice-acted in Gargoyles
29) Cancer
30) Zombie
31) This person loves citrus
32) Viking
33) Viking who smokes cigars
34) ViKing
35) This person loves Odin
36) This person has infinite wives
37) This person is high on Odin
38) Physician

 

[Kaiserschmarrn]

The obvious answer concerning the elephant is that there is a chance that instead of the black plague there is an equal chance that a sizeable part of europe is decimated by a huge elephant stampede sweaping the continent.

The parrot, I hope is a reference to the poem by Jack Skelton.

So maby siginifying polyglottism.

 

[BOOMER BOOM! MAN!]

Looks interesting so far, but I do have a few questions. Like do we get a choice to what gruesome means to snuff out the life of our prisoners? Judging from the pic of the elephant and does that relate to some other mechanic? Like the more nightmarish the execution the more you would force your vassals and people to obey you but more and more executions in 'extravagant' manners could lead to other rebellions down the line or having other nobles flee to nearby kingdoms and tell their courts of your cruelty which would lead them to invade your lands in efforts to 'liberate' the people from your reign?

Second, would there also be other traits that could be a result at birth? For example, could one be born without the organs of speech thus giving them a 'Mute' trait? Or be born blind or deaf or lose them due to sickness at a young age like Helen Keller? Other physical abnormalities like albinism, gigantism, etc?

 

[Harald Fairhair]

Silver Tower: Unsure


Blue Tower w/ Wings: Unsure

Not tower, Hammer of Thor! Mjølnir!

 

[Ruisuki]

I don't know a single mod that has anything to do with naval. That's why a say "cannot be done with mods". Do you remember when such a comment was made? The dev team change greatly a half year ago maybe they over thought that.

Ah. A say.

 

[Steel_atlas]

Not tower, Hammer of Thor! Mjølnir!

I guess if the Hammer is upside down, though Id be a bit dissapointed if Germanic Pagans got a host of new traits while all the other pagans feel nearly identical besides Tengri.

 

[Kaiser Franz II]

When will this come out?