CK2 Development Diary #7: Get Sicker and die harder

[Lemont Elwood]

Two of the most important effects, long-term, of the Black Death were the decline of feudalism and the rise of the reform movement in Catholicism.

It would be nice to see high Unrest in Depopulated provinces, and to still have a lower Unrest penalty until/unless the player chooses to ease up on the serfs (decreasing taxes and levies permanently, but not by as much as before). Depopulation should also cause Moral Authority for the religion of that population to fall.

There was also quite a lot of variety in how much damage the Black Death caused; some Chinese provinces had 90% death rates, some Italian cities had 75% rates, and some English counties had only 25%. Depopulation should occur in phases, and you should be able to prevent it from worsening by investing resources in stopping the spread.

 

[_Perun_]

Does the depopulation affect nomads somehow differently as they have the unique "population" flavour?

 

[The_Irish_Lion]

So does this mean that our population can systematically be killed off if a plague gets too out of control? Sounds almost like it's designed to be a game-killer. Also, what various diseases would be more at risk for huge epidemic than ones that may stick to one particular area? Overall, sounds great!! I eagerly wait for it to come out!

 

[Enriador]

Is it possible for the Black Plague to actually kill around 50% of the population/characters, like it did in real life?

Epidemics: Dynamic/Historical/Deadly

Well friend, thanks to this new Game Rules system people can have both a historical Black Death, a random Black Death, and (like you wish) a very, very bad Black Death respectively.

I wonder when this "Deadly" version comes around, if after 1300 or else.

 

[orochi2k]

Can we intendly spread black death and form a Plague inc in 1300?

 

[Rationalsanity]

This looks amazing, I've wanted detailed plague mechanics since I read AARs of CK1 and was disappointed when my dynasty wasn't almost wiped out in my first full CK2 game.

This should be great for modders as well.

 

[melkor88]

A long time coming. This may even tempt me to update from 2.4.5, at least to try out the changes.

 

[james24eagle]

One way would be to have actual monastical order, so when someone take vow they actually go to them, would finally give us a way to get rid of old ladies beside murder.

This would be awesome. There was a huge black market for clerical posts that derived an income for "second" and illegitimate sons that is largely absent from the game.

 

[vyshan]

One way would be to have actual monastical order, so when someone take vow they actually go to them, would finally give us a way to get rid of old ladies beside murder.

Yes! I would kill if there were actual monastic orders for people to join and be apart of.

 

[OnlySage]

This DLC is something I have wanted for such a long time

 

[Knotz]

Hospitals are cool, I hope we get some events for them.

 

[ReginaGloriana]

Is it all doom and gloom in this DLC?

This is CK II. Don't you mean optimism and joy? >

 

[IconOfEvi]

Very nice catch on Danse Macabre! I still suggest it should be the name, unless other various things yet announced are the more vital approach to this?

 

[Hughrocks123]

Can we use plagues in assassin plots?

 

[MalfunctionM1Ke]

Paradox, I dont know if this was brought up already, but...

... can we also get options to use the plague to our advantage?
Like, throwing plague-ridden corpses over the walls of our enemies during a siege?
Or spreading the plague / poisoning wells in the counties of our enemies by intrigue?

That would be nice

 

[GoukaRyuu]

Paradox, I dont know if this was brought up already, but...

... can we also get options to use the plague to our advantage?
Like, throwing plague-ridden corpses over the walls of our enemies during a siege?
Or spreading the plague / poisoning wells in the counties of our enemies by intrigue?

That would be nice

If that becomes a thing it should have the high chance of giving the Cruel trait and, if your character ends up enjoying the suffering, Impaler as well. You should also suffer a dishonorable penalty if caught but if you have high enough intrigue you can always blame it on the Jews, given that is usually what would actually happen.

 

[alfian]

I had a dream last night. I know some people say, it is forbidden to tell our dreams. In my dreams they make Wendish/West Slavic portraits and new Mongol faces. lol

 

[VoodooEconomist]

Paradox, I dont know if this was brought up already, but...

... can we also get options to use the plague to our advantage?
Like, throwing plague-ridden corpses over the walls of our enemies during a siege?
Or spreading the plague / poisoning wells in the counties of our enemies by intrigue?

That would be nice

No biological warfare.

 

[Darkrenown]

A long time coming. This may even tempt me to update from 2.4.5, at least to try out the changes.

Why would you not update? Serious question, with CTAs reverting and Threat becoming optional there doesn't seem to be much reason to stick to 2.4.5.

 

[orochi2k]

Why would you not update? Serious question, with CTAs reverting and Threat becoming optional there doesn't seem to be much reason to stick to 2.4.5.

Achievement?