CK2 Development Diary #10: Live long [yet futilely] and prosper

[Rationalsanity]

Yeah, Raiders had better not be able to wreck holdings in a few days. It would make the CM and TOG starts more or less unplayable as certain realms.

 

[LordDamien]

This looks amazing. No really it truly looks amazing !

 

[Hellua]

pre-order!

 

[Rory1237]

Once again a great developer diary. To me, this seems to be the most exciting expansion in a while, providing incentives to work for peace along with the more 'human' illness system being introduced. I feel this expansion is going to greatly improve my immersion into my realm. I also have to agree that the plates are... jarring to say the least.

I do have one question regarding this diary: will the extra holding be added instantly once the payment has been made or will they require time to be 'built'?

 

[sreckom92]

Darkrenown this could open the possibility of modeling the "traveling courts" that were a feature of Europe in various times. If, in fact, the crown focus represents also where the court is located that could affect a variety of things including province owners prestige, income (positively for the province, negatively for the holder!), exposure to plague, and who is considered "in court" for events. You would, of course, have to enable crown focus to be set on provinces outside of demense, but I think that's a good idea anyway--maybe you want to help your cousin's lands??

If you move your crown focus (court) away from an invading army that would... make a lot of sense, really.

Obviously setting a crown focus should cost something. Prestige and cash, likely (perhaps more cash the larger a court is); cannot just uproot everyone without a price!

You have an opportunity here for some really interesting flexibility. Hope you'll take it.

--Khanwulf

That's what I was thinking.
Kinda.

 

[General WVPM]

Event per province, large empire = many provinces = event spam?

 

[Giuse]

Finally! 7 slots coastal counties on silk road
time for a new demesne income record!

 

[DC123456789]

It looks like a province event, which only shows for the province's direct owner.

 

[OBRkenobi]

I really don't want to see giant bowls of food on the map.

 

[Jamoid]

I agree about the food bowls. I'd be happy with just a map mode really, but if it's represented in the game world I'd prefer something more subtle.

 

[VoodooEconomist]

This makes me think of Mali. Historically wealthy due to gold mines, but in the game nearly all wealth comes from cities so Mali is poor. Solution? Have Mali start off prosperous and have events that give then prosperity for doing nothing.

Event: We have gold mines
Result: prosperous!

Event: We still have gold mines
Result: prosperous!

This, so much this! When Musa I of Mali went on Hajj he spent so much gold on his way that he crashed the economies of the cities he wen through, and apparently enough to build a mosque in each place he stayed! The inflation in Mecca, Medina and Cairo was incredibly high that the effects lasted a DECADE, even though the Mansa himself tried to rectify this and took money from gold lenders on his way back to Mali...

 

[Slayen]

I'm going to echo the sentiment that the prosperity province Icon is much too large.

 

[AchedTeacher]

Additional holding slots, neat. I hope it takes a good long while before that event fires though (looking at you, game performance).

I'm mostly interested from a balancing point of view.

 

[StarSword]

Really liking the ability to add holding slots to provinces. My current Irish dynasty's capital is the Hebrides, which only has three slots, and I'm looking at doing a "Making William Jealous" playthrough from Iceland which, the whole island has a total of four.

 

[Ciniod]

Id love this so much. Currently playing an "Empire of Eestimaa" campaign. Have the second most technologicaly advanced capital (Kaleva) only barely beaten by constantinople, but with much lower economy because of just less holdings. And my secondary counties are all around or just alightly lower in tech than Paris. The capital of the most powerful country in my Europe. But as I said im stuck with 3 and 2 additiomal holding slot provinces...

And also would love a loss of holding slots because Middlesex here, a technological and economical backwater because of hundreds of years of being under single and double county counts, and only recently under an united England that is falling apart again with Francia invading. And a lot of times its not even been anyones capital. But here it is still with 7 slots.

 

[Agnitio Ex Mach]

Hello all, it’s time for another DD! Today I’m going to tell you about the Prosperity system, which is a <secret DLC> feature. Prosperity is rather like the opposite of Depopulation, which I have mentioned in previous DDs. In essence, provinces which have not been sieged, raided, or ravaged by disease for a long time will begin to Prosper, and gain certain bonuses- such as extra tax income and faster replenishment of levies.

Will prosperous provinces provide more loot in raids?

 

[VoodooEconomist]

Will prosperous provinces provide more loot in raids?

There's a very helpful "Show only Dev responses" button near the sorting button up right. It's useful for finding already answered questions:

The loot bar on a province is based on the tax income there, and a Prospering province has a tax bonus, so there's more loot. Other than that, there's just the satisfaction of de-Prospering them.

 

[Agnitio Ex Mach]

Thanks!

 

[Jayavarman]

Prosperity should increase a province's risk of becoming sinfully debauched, resulting in a harlot dancing on the game's map.

 

[Axe99]

Cheers for the DD Darkrenown . Have to say, this upcoming patch/DLC combo is sounding might tasty. The idea of prosperity rewarding rulers for keeping their realm safe is a great one, and it sounds like a great implementation to boot. One thought - is there the potential for a very low stewardship ruler (or one with an appropriate trait) to lead to a drop in prosperity (or am I thinking too cruelly)?