CK2 Dev Diary #69: Another Journey to Tibet

CK2 Dev Diary #69: Another Journey to Tibet

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As far as I know,Xia is used for a Chinese,or in other words,Han (though they didn't called Han yet then ) culture dynasty.Chinese call themselves Sons of Huaxia till now.
Yes, so what? The kingdom of Tanguts was known as Xia in Chinese.
 

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If you can get the game faster than before with extra provinces then you shoiuld've added China properly...

Not really. China would be at least an order of magnitude more provinces than what I suspect we're getting.
 

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Since we got Meneth on the project, we have had as a goal to not let patches slow the game down. :)


Do you have a source for if/when this should happen? :)

When you write fastest yet, do you mean faster than before you added India? Otherwise it's just less slow.
 

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When you write fastest yet, do you mean faster than before you added India? Otherwise it's just less slow.
What's the difference between "faster" and "less slow"?
And what is this strange dictionary where "yet" is synonym with "since we added India"? Don't you remember how slow CK2 was compared to what it is currently?
 

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When you write fastest yet, do you mean faster than before you added India? Otherwise it's just less slow.
As of Reaper's Due, the game is faster than it was in any patch before India was added; 100 years in RIP go by faster than 100 years in any pre-India patch.
As of MnM, it's even faster, though not by quite as drastic amount.
In JD, it is slightly faster than that again. It'll be the fastest it has ever been.
 

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Tibet officially has more care put into it than the actual nonsensical and buggy "random-winner-takes-all" Crusade system. In Crusader Kings II. Eastern Christianity is also still very barren.
 

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What's the difference between "faster" and "less slow"?
And what is this strange dictionary where "yet" is synonym with "since we added India"? Don't you remember how slow CK2 was compared to what it is currently?

I haven't played CK2 for a while, mostly due to the fact that it has been soooo slow since they added India.
I am glad to hear that speed has been improved.
"We have improved the game, so it's much faster now" could still mean that it is slower than before RoI.
That's the difference between faster and less slow.
 

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As of Reaper's Due, the game is faster than it was in any patch before India was added; 100 years in RIP go by faster than 100 years in any pre-India patch.
As of MnM, it's even faster, though not by quite as drastic amount.
In JD, it is slightly faster than that again. It'll be the fastest it has ever been.

Thank you.
Then I am actually looking forward to this patch!
 

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Tibet officially has more care put into it than the actual nonsensical and buggy "random-winner-takes-all" Crusade system. In Crusader Kings II. Eastern Christianity is also still very barren.

You are wrong. Dude, the "winner takes all" is an excellent representation. When the Kingdom of Jerusalem was established, how many ways was it divided? ONE, and with ONE ruler. It's the most accurate representation that they can get.

I agree, however, with Eastern Christianity needing more content.
 

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While you are in the progress of changing you the map could please add more wasteland to Europe in order encourage more historical path of expansion? I would like to see the following wastelands added:
  • Cantabrian Mountains, to protect Asturias from the Muslims.
  • Taurus Mountains, to protect the Romans from the Muslims and encourage break-away states.
  • Kola and Finnish Lappland, that were so desolated prior to their colonization in the 16th century that army's movement through them had been a death march.
Edit: Grammar.
 
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That looks so much better than what we first saw.
When did you add the Saka? Anyways, this patch is just getting better and better! BTW, as we're (kinda) talking about cultures, could you add a "Magyar" or "Old Hungarian" culture for the 769 and 867 starts, that then change to regular Hungarian if Christian/in Pannonian basin. The Magyar culture could work like the Altaic Steppe cultures and maybe use Turkic/Ugric portraits and the Hungarian culture work more like "western" cultures.
The Magyar in 867 and 769 could do with some balancing too.

While you are in the progress of changing the map could please add more wasteland to Europe in order encourage more historical path of expansion? I would like to see the following wastelands added:
  • Cantabrian Mountains, to protect Asturias from the Muslims.
  • Taurus Mountains, to protect the Romans from the Muslims and encourage break-away states.
  • Kola and Finnish Lappland, that were so desolated prior to their colonization in the 16th century that army's movement through them had been a death march.
Well aside from the last thing I agree. As for the last, tribals in general should be less interesting as targets for conquest. Tribals should pay next to no taxes or suply next to no manpower to non tribals and de tribalizing tribes should be a lot of work.
 

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Small quibble, but the Persian count in 769 India meant to represent the remnants of the White Huns should probably be switched to the new Saka culture.
 

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Is this part of the expansion, or will we be getting a "Free Tibet"?
 

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Usually, map expansions get included in the free patch. At least that's what happened with India and RoI
 

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Great to see Tibet getting even more love, looking forward to being able to play there!