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Not sure if this has been reported, but playing with th alternat beginning in spain, toledo. I attack a christian count, after a while a muslim count attacks me so I naturally get the message of help from all surrounding counts. But instead of joining me in the war against the muslim, they join me in the war against the christian! (so obviously, i get roflstomped...)

Known bug, vanilla issue. I've asked Paradox to fix it but no luck so far.
 

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Look at the tooltip when declaring war. It will say: X will ask neighbouring rulers of his religion for help. When you declare war on someone of a different religion group, their neighbours get the option to join in and defend them.

That explains the Byz situation, but what about the Spanish Muslim one? We were both Sunni.

Jesus I always feel ridiculous when I complain about awesome mods that people have made on their own time for my enjoyment. Gotta thank you, Wiz, for your incredible work and dedication.
 

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That explains the Byz situation, but what about the Spanish Muslim one? We were both Sunni.

Jesus I always feel ridiculous when I complain about awesome mods that people have made on their own time for my enjoyment. Gotta thank you, Wiz, for your incredible work and dedication.

The Spanish Muslim one I'm guessing you declared war on a Hudid, who are alllied to a bunch of other Hudid rulers in the area, meaning normal alliance mechanics. Otherwise it's because of the bug mentioned above, where defenders join the wrong war if there are multiple wars going against a character.
 

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I don't know if this is the product of a bug/hidden mechanic, vanilla issue, or some unknown event firing in the background, but...

I was playing a Count, saving my money to create a Duchy title. My son matured and I had to hold off on betrothing him to the daughter of my target since he wouldn't accept the match while I was still a lowly count. So while waiting to buy the Duchy title so I could make the marriage match, I made my unmarried mature heir my Martial. After a year or so of collecting the money I would still need for the title, I see the pop up about selecting coin or prestige when a ruler or heir gets married. Curious.

Turns out my heir opted to get married to a lowborn girl without my input or any notice apart from the pop up above?

I actually don't have a problem with the situation that happened, since it made for an interesting scenario and I got a crash course introduction to your new intrigue options when deciding how to deal with it. He had two kids by the woman before I decided to step in and execute her, and then marry him to the woman I wanted originally.

I just think this should result in a bigger event chain if happening as desired, similar to the one along the lines of people getting married in your court without permission, or needs addressed in some way if not working correctly (presuming this is from CK2 and not vanilla).
 

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Gulluoglu, I'm pretty sure it's possible by vanilla behavior for characters to go and get married without your consent.

If they're desperate for love (or at least, marriage,) they ain't gonna wait around forever for your sorry old arse to play kingmaker as a prelude to playing matchmaker, now, are they? They're not getting any younger, after all. (Well, barring save editing, anyway.)



I have my own, though, and it's very curious. I'm playing as the Duchess of Meath (formerly the Earl of Dublin,) and I fabricated a claim on the other county of Meath before I formed the Duchy. Before that, though, I randomly got a Claim (a legitimate claim? No way!) on one of the counties on the northern coast of Ireland, so I said to heck with it and went ahead and claimed him.

So now I have three counties, and I've been expanding my ambitions: I have my signs on Connacht, and I have successfully fabricated a Strong Claim on it. It's there in my Claims, when I check, in fact.

But it won't let me declare war on the old fart Duke who's all up in Connacht, it's not recognizing I have a claim CB. It recognized other claims - I got his wife and his Martial to join me in a plot to straight frame him for heresy, followed by having His Holiness excommunicate the guy, and I certainly had the Excommunicated Ruler CB valid, and I proceeded to wafflestomp him so hard he threw himself at the Pope's knees and confessed, I guess, because the war ended and I didn't force it to end.

Is this a vanilla bug, a CK2+ bug, or what could it be? It's like there's a disconnect in the game between the bits where it sees I have a claim and it tallies up my valid CBs, but the weird thing is that I WAS able to claim something else on a fabricated claim.
 

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i might have a bug but i'm not sure at all.

I'm playing the Duchess of Tuscany and I fabricated 2 claims. One with the pop-up event out of nowhere on the prince-bishopric of Ravenna, and one through my Counselor on the City of Pisa. Problem is : i cant declare war on any of them. I have a red * on "need a casus-balli". I thought it was because they were not independent so i waited until the rebel against the HRE, but still, it says i have no casus-belli. My character do have the claims in its character sheet.

I even checked inside the savegame and the claim= ... seems fine to me.
 

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Appears to be an issue with female characters and claims on Agnatic titles. Fixed for next version.
 

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Latest version + hotfix 2.

Ran into a bug as the emperor of Spain. I launched an epic tournament and it went on forever, the tooltip said it would run until 1453 (or whatever the enddate is), resulting in lots and lots of injured, maimed and dead characters :).
Fixed it by reloading and changing duration -1 to duration 100 in two places in the decisions file. Not sure whether both were needed, but please have a look at it.

Thanks for the mod, great work!
 

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popekhan.png

I find the implications of this perplexing, and have to assume something is not working properly.

1.31.14, with hotfix 2.
 

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Nah, the pope handles global events is all. Not a bug.
 

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Probably not a bug... probably just a case of me being oblvious again, but can someone tell me if the issue posted in this thread is a CK2+ feature that I don't know about?

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?646210-Can-t-press-claims-not-sure-why

I'm running into the same "problem" with my Byz game (I won't restore Rome until Hispania is mine, or at least mostly mine). I have claims on all the counties of Alger but I can't press my claims on them. The same goes for holy wars which is annoying because the Ilkhanate is currently undergoing civil war so I'd like to capitalise on that to snatch up some prime real estate in Persia.

Here's some pictures of my problem...

EDIT: Running 1.07b with CK2+ 1.31.14 and the hotfix.

Second Edit: Well now I feel silly, at least about the Ilkhanate. I just noticed that for some reason they became orthodox (they originally converted to sunni). Still doesn't answer the other problems though.

Last edit: So my Emperor died and everything is fine now. His son was able to press claims/holy wars so I'm not sure what the problem was but it's gone, whatever it was.
 
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playing shattered world starting in Constantinople, i form Thrace, join the iconoclast heresy and attack everyone mercilessly until i have Belgium, Serbia and Epirus and am ready to form my empire now. My culture is still Greek Byzantine but all I can form is Danubia. How do i fix this?

running 1.08 with CK2+ 1.31.14 and the hotfix.


(tried to search for this but i cant work out how to search just one thread.)


*edit*
ok, just abandoned the iconoclast heresy and it fixed it. now the question is why did it need fixing? it says all orthodox heresies can form Byzantine. I'm gonna poke around the mod files to try and fix it myself. I will post the solution if it can come up with it.

*edit*
I looked into the religions and titles and didn't find anything, I was hoping that there was just a typo or that you forgot to put it in but everything seems to be there... no idea what is causing the bug.
 
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I have all legitimate DLC's (ie: Not Sunset Invasion, the bastard child of CK2). The latest CK2+ version with the hotfix works fine, the only issue I've come across is more annoying than game breaking.
All coats of arms are black. ALL OF THEM. Even with the CoA DLC disabled, same issue. >:C FIX IT
 

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Hey Wiz, with the last version Muslim unlanded sons accrue decadence once more, intentional?

Uh, are you sure of this? The values are all 0 still in defines.lua.
 

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I dont know if it is a bug or wad, but I cant lead factions - even if I load the game as a faction leader I am kicked out from faction in a few days. I can only join factions or start a movement (separatists, claims).
 

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Intentional. Player leading one of the major factions would cause some issues since they have a ton of power over their faction and player wouldn't care about things like mood. I may develop something like a voting system within factions that would let players be leaders, but that would be for a later version.
 
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