CK2+ Bugs and Issues
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Not sure if this is a CK2+ or Vanilla event but the missionary event where a Christian Duke sends a missionary to convert one of the Pagan rulers doesn't work properly. It is supposed to convert the rulers children as well as the ruler but currently only converts the ruler. At the moment the only thing this usually achieves is making the Pagans weaker because of the loss of the warrior cult building.
Couple of things I have noticed that aren't exactly bugs in recent patch.
The Yatviags and The Kingdom Semien can usurp the Duchy of Lithuania and Kingdom of Abyssinia respectively from 1066 start date and have done this in my recent games, perhaps give the Lithuanians a titular title instead of the Duchy of Lithuania so they don't lose their vassals.
The Jewish Semien Kingdom is now a powerhouse in East Africa, perhaps you could scale down the use of holy wars for Jewish rulers the same way you have for Orthodox.
The Yatviags and The Kingdom Semien can usurp the Duchy of Lithuania and Kingdom of Abyssinia respectively from 1066 start date and have done this in my recent games, perhaps give the Lithuanians a titular title instead of the Duchy of Lithuania so they don't lose their vassals.
The Jewish Semien Kingdom is now a powerhouse in East Africa, perhaps you could scale down the use of holy wars for Jewish rulers the same way you have for Orthodox.
I should have read that (in more detail) much earlier, the game is running much better now and both problems have disappeared. Thank you very much!
I got into a civil war as Harold 2 of Godwin. The northern duke Morcar I rebelled, and my son who I granted a county said something like "sorry bout that guy rebelling, I'll help you, if you solve this territorial dispute..." so I did, giving him the ducal title that ruled over his lands. But he didn't join me, he joined Morcar of all people. My son had 100 relations with me by the way, so this makes no sense at all. Just because he had a strong claim to my title shouldn't mean anything, I mean c'mon he's my firstborn, he'll be king soon enough anyway without disposing of his own father who gave him what he wanted.
Using the latest update (1.28.4) I'm experiencing a repeatable CTD when choosing to play as the Ottomans in 1299. The CTD occurs on the loading screen before I can even get into gameplay. The problem isn't occuring on vanilla CK2.
Another issue I have with the mod, but not a bug. Why is it impossible to do any retribution to my traitorous vassals without hurting myself in the process? If someone rebels and I imprison them, I should be able to revoke title or banish them for no damage to myself except to infuriate their family. Instead, to revoke any title it takes 100 prestige, which is not worth it, or I have to get tyranny for executing them. If you leave it this way, atleast allow tyranny to reduce revolt risk, or somehow make vassals more averse to going against you as they'd be afraid after you set an example by executing someone. As the game is, as Harold II of England I banished a single vassal duke morcar I who rebelled TWICE and despised me, and that gave me 20 unearned infamy. He was the one who initiated a rebellion. I was later known as "the Tyrant". I'm offended.
There were two civil wars involving different royal rebel factions going on at the same time for England as well as 2 ordinary depose liege wars without rebel factions, when one of the civil wars ended the other civil war faction kept their royal rebels title and are now ruling as a rebel king without a war going on, some of the vassals became independent too. I have the autosaves if you are interested
Did you attempt to give that Duchy to multiple people who requested it? Sometimes you get several vassals asking for the same title. They're 100% guaranteed to support you if you give them the title they ask.
Known bug, fixed in 1.29.
Hi not sure if other people have noticed the issue with murder plots not firing after having one succeed, but I am pretty sure I know the reason.
Before the murder attempt is set in motion (eg the poisoned wine one) it checks if any of the backers have the char flag murder_in_motion, and if so the event never fires.
ie for the two Poisoned wine events:-
If no chars have that, then the event fires and can set the murder_in_motion flag on deciding to go ahead with the attempt. eg for the plotter attempt
or it happens when the backer informs the primary plotter of the plan
The problem is that the murder_in_motion flag is only cleared on failed murder attempts, and not on ones that succeed, so if you succeed on one murder, you will never have another murder event fire for that character, as the first check will always fail.
The two successes, no clearing of murder_in_motion flag
The two failures, both which clear the flag
I am assuming that is not working as intended? It is the same for all 13 different murder events and only the failures clear the flag.
Note this can easily be fixed temporarily if you have this in a save game by loading the save game up in an editor, finding your character, and deleting the murder_in_motion flag under character flags, which lets you try and murder someone else.
Before the murder attempt is set in motion (eg the poisoned wine one) it checks if any of the backers have the char flag murder_in_motion, and if so the event never fires.
ie for the two Poisoned wine events:-
Code:
# The plotter sees an opportunity - Poisoned Wine
character_event = {
id = 8150
desc = "EVTDESC8150"
picture = GFX_evt_whispers
border = GFX_event_normal_frame_intrigue
capable_only = yes
prisoner = no
trigger = {
has_objective = plot_kill_character
plot_target_char = {
age = 16
prisoner = no
at_location = ROOT # The Plot Head needs to be at the target's location to get a chance
NOT = { trait = incapable }
}
[COLOR="#FF0000"] NOT = { has_character_flag = murder_in_motion }[/COLOR]
plot_power_contribution =
{
plotter = ROOT
power = 0.025
}
}
Code:
# A plot backer sees an opportunity - Poisoned Wine
character_event = {
id = 8151
desc = "EVTDESC8151"
picture = GFX_evt_whispers
border = GFX_event_normal_frame_intrigue
capable_only = yes
prisoner = no
trigger = {
any_backed_character = {
has_objective = plot_kill_character
plot_power = 0.5
plot_target_char = {
age = 16
prisoner = no
NOT = { trait = incapable }
}
[COLOR="#FF0000"] NOT = { has_character_flag = murder_in_motion }[/COLOR]
ROOT = {
plot_power_contribution =
{
plotter = PREV
power = 0.025
}
}
}
}
Code:
option = {
name = "EVTOPTA8150" # The conspirators provide the poison
trigger = {
plot_power = 1.0
}
hidden_tooltip = {
any_plot_backer = {
character_event = { id = 8162 days = 1 }
}
}
[COLOR="#FF0000"] set_character_flag = murder_in_motion[/COLOR]
plot_target_char = { character_event = { id = 8155 days = 30 tooltip = "EVTTOOLTIP8155" } }
}
option = {
name = "EVTOPTB8150" # Buy the poison
trigger = {
NOT = { plot_power = 0.5 }
NOT = { learning = 10 }
}
scaled_wealth = -1.0
hidden_tooltip = {
any_plot_backer = {
character_event = { id = 8162 days = 1 }
}
}
[COLOR="#FF0000"] set_character_flag = murder_in_motion[/COLOR]
plot_target_char = { character_event = { id = 8155 days = 30 tooltip = "EVTTOOLTIP8155" } }
}
option = {
name = "EVTOPTB8150" # Buy the poison
trigger = {
plot_power = 0.5
NOT = { plot_power = 1.0 }
NOT = { learning = 10 }
}
scaled_wealth = -0.5
hidden_tooltip = {
any_plot_backer = {
character_event = { id = 8162 days = 1 }
}
}
[COLOR="#FF0000"] set_character_flag = murder_in_motion[/COLOR]
plot_target_char = { character_event = { id = 8155 days = 30 tooltip = "EVTTOOLTIP8155" } }
}
option = {
name = "EVTOPTC8150" # Hemlock goes well with the Red...
tooltip_info = learning
trigger = {
plot_power = 0.5
learning = 10
}
hidden_tooltip = {
any_plot_backer = {
character_event = { id = 8162 days = 1 }
}
}
[COLOR="#FF0000"] set_character_flag = murder_in_motion[/COLOR]
plot_target_char = { character_event = { id = 8155 days = 30 tooltip = "EVTTOOLTIP8155" } }
}
option = {
name = "EVTOPTD8150" # I cannot afford this
trigger = {
ai = no
NOT = { learning = 10 }
NOT = { plot_power = 1.0 }
}
}
Code:
# Poisoned Wine - Backer informs Plotter of plan
character_event = {
id = 8160
desc = "EVTDESC8160"
picture = GFX_evt_whispers
border = GFX_event_normal_frame_intrigue
is_triggered_only = yes
option = {
name = "EVTOPTA8160"
[COLOR="#FF0000"] set_character_flag = murder_in_motion[/COLOR]
FROM = { character_event = { id = 8161 tooltip = "EVTTOOLTIP8161" } }
hidden_tooltip = {
any_plot_backer = {
limit = {
NOT = { character = FROM }
}
character_event = { id = 8162 days = 1 }
}
}
}
}The problem is that the murder_in_motion flag is only cleared on failed murder attempts, and not on ones that succeed, so if you succeed on one murder, you will never have another murder event fire for that character, as the first check will always fail.
The two successes, no clearing of murder_in_motion flag
Code:
# Poisoned Wine - Notification: Success, but discovered
character_event = {
.
.
.
option = {
name = "EVTOPTA8163"
tooltip = { add_trait = dishonorable1 }
if = {
limit = {
trait = honest
}
remove_trait = honest
}
if = {
limit = {
trait = kind
}
remove_trait = kind
}
}
}
# Poisoned Wine - Notification: Success, and NOT discovered
character_event = {
id = 8164
desc = "EVTDESC8164"
picture = GFX_evt_shadowy_cabal
border = GFX_event_normal_frame_intrigue
is_triggered_only = yes
trigger = {
OR = {
NOT = { has_character_flag = murder_victim }
had_character_flag = {
flag = murder_victim
days = 30
}
}
}
option = {
name = "EVTOPTA8164"
if = {
limit = {
trait = honest
}
remove_trait = honest
}
if = {
limit = {
trait = kind
}
remove_trait = kind
}
}
}The two failures, both which clear the flag
Code:
# Poisoned Wine - Notification: Failure, and discovered
character_event = {
id = 8165
.
.
.
option = {
name = "EVTOPTA8165"
if = {
limit = {
plot_target_char = {
character = FROM
}
has_objective = plot_kill_character
}
[COLOR="#FF0000"] clr_character_flag = murder_in_motion[/COLOR]
tooltip = { reveal_plot = yes }
}
}
}
# Poisoned Wine - Notification: Failure, but NOT discovered
character_event = {
id = 8166
desc = "EVTDESC8166"
picture = GFX_evt_shadowy_cabal
border = GFX_event_normal_frame_intrigue
is_triggered_only = yes
trigger = {
OR = {
NOT = { has_character_flag = murder_victim }
had_character_flag = {
flag = murder_victim
days = 30
}
}
}
option = {
name = "EVTOPTA8166"
if = {
limit = {
plot_target_char = {
character = FROM
}
has_objective = plot_kill_character
}
[COLOR="#FF0000"] clr_character_flag = murder_in_motion[/COLOR]
}
}
}I am assuming that is not working as intended? It is the same for all 13 different murder events and only the failures clear the flag.
Note this can easily be fixed temporarily if you have this in a save game by loading the save game up in an editor, finding your character, and deleting the murder_in_motion flag under character flags, which lets you try and murder someone else.
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Heh, it was driving me nuts as to why my 300%+ plot was only getting the drunken revelations for decades after the previous one had had a proper event within a month. So you are welcome
I've seen a (succesfull) Fatimid Jihad for Sicily.
It shouldn't happen in CK2+ judging from what I've understood.
Also, is it WAD that you don't get decadence as a muslim ruler?
It shouldn't happen in CK2+ judging from what I've understood.
Also, is it WAD that you don't get decadence as a muslim ruler?
I allow Fatimid Jihads for Sicily, it's a not entirely unplausible thing since the Muslims of the time did carry out a lot of raids and minor invasions of Italy.
Decadence is reworked, you get it by event (although way too little of it atm).
They should probably only target Sicily proper instead of the whole Kingdom, at least IMHO.
Female rulers cannot take the intrigue decision to present a noble woman to the court.
On further testing, it seems that the period 1294 - 1319 is unplayable for rulers of all religions. Also CTDs occur when resigning from a game I can actually get into.
EDIT: I'm using the BLC and No Assaults modules by the way.
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Another minor bug, and how to fix it.
Though females can be Stewards (job_treasurer) the events in job_stewards can't trigger for females, thus both the bonus and malus events don't fire. This is a simple fix though, just either delete or comment out the 'only_men = yes' lines.
Though females can be Stewards (job_treasurer) the events in job_stewards can't trigger for females, thus both the bonus and malus events don't fire. This is a simple fix though, just either delete or comment out the 'only_men = yes' lines.
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