Short summary of your issue Sudden loss of territory with no apparent cause/pop up
Game Version 1.2
What OS are you playing on?
Windows
What platform are you using?
Steam
Do you have mods enabled? No
Have you tried verifying your game files (Steam only)?
No
How much "pain" is this causing you?
10
Please explain the issue you experienced in the most condensed way possible
Territories suddenly defect with no apparent reason given, it is obvious it is linked to religious issues, but there is no way for my character (liege) to prevent it at all
Please explain how to reproduce the issue
One thing that is super annoying though, is that you randomly lose land to religious rebellions because your vassals/liege lose that rebellion.
For example, I usually play as Iberian characters, and as Duke of Mallorca, vassal of Aquitaine, I granted my son 4 muslim territories that I just conquered in the penninsula, after 10 years, they just defected and become independent with muslim rulers without any pop-up or anything that could have notify me that this was about to happen.
The issue, I think, is that the rebellion was either done at my vassal level or at my liege level but I was never aware of that (couldn't even see the "orange" armies, so I never knew that was happening).
In my opinion, there should be a system to make us aware there is anything going on that could make you lose land, in this case, a pop up at the top, or an "ongoing war" symbol at the bottom right.
Personally, I think you should be able to assist your vassals or your liege in any of these wars "for your territory" if they can't handle them and get a hook on them if thanks to your contribution you end up winning the war - Even if you don't agree with getting the hook, please make very clear when something like this is happening, because I had 2k troops + capacity for hiring mercenaries and never even thought about using them because I could never notice there was something going on there.
Alternatively, if what happened (because I am not sure as nothing really was announced), my son decided to "give away" that land to these rebellious dudes, I think a vassal should not be allowed to unilaterally grant independence from its liege to random dudes, maybe they can give away their land, but certainly not allow third parties to become independent, isn't that right?
Is there anything else you think could help us identify/replicate the issue?
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Game Version 1.2
What OS are you playing on?
Windows
What platform are you using?
Steam
Do you have mods enabled? No
Have you tried verifying your game files (Steam only)?
No
How much "pain" is this causing you?
10
Please explain the issue you experienced in the most condensed way possible
Territories suddenly defect with no apparent reason given, it is obvious it is linked to religious issues, but there is no way for my character (liege) to prevent it at all
Please explain how to reproduce the issue
Annoying uncontrollable religious rebellions
Hi, I want to start saying that I think the game is amazing and the new character creation system is great! One thing that is super annoying though, is that you randomly lose land to religious rebellions because your vassals/liege lose that...
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One thing that is super annoying though, is that you randomly lose land to religious rebellions because your vassals/liege lose that rebellion.
For example, I usually play as Iberian characters, and as Duke of Mallorca, vassal of Aquitaine, I granted my son 4 muslim territories that I just conquered in the penninsula, after 10 years, they just defected and become independent with muslim rulers without any pop-up or anything that could have notify me that this was about to happen.
The issue, I think, is that the rebellion was either done at my vassal level or at my liege level but I was never aware of that (couldn't even see the "orange" armies, so I never knew that was happening).
In my opinion, there should be a system to make us aware there is anything going on that could make you lose land, in this case, a pop up at the top, or an "ongoing war" symbol at the bottom right.
Personally, I think you should be able to assist your vassals or your liege in any of these wars "for your territory" if they can't handle them and get a hook on them if thanks to your contribution you end up winning the war - Even if you don't agree with getting the hook, please make very clear when something like this is happening, because I had 2k troops + capacity for hiring mercenaries and never even thought about using them because I could never notice there was something going on there.
Alternatively, if what happened (because I am not sure as nothing really was announced), my son decided to "give away" that land to these rebellious dudes, I think a vassal should not be allowed to unilaterally grant independence from its liege to random dudes, maybe they can give away their land, but certainly not allow third parties to become independent, isn't that right?
Is there anything else you think could help us identify/replicate the issue?
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