CK III - Succession creates new kingdoms out of whole cloth for no apparent reason

[sjj668]

Short summary of your issue Succession creates new kingdoms out of whole cloth for no apparent reason

Game Version CK3 v 1.0.3

What OS are you playing on?
Windows

What platform are you using?
Steam

Do you have mods enabled? No

Have you tried verifying your game files (Steam only)?
No

How much "pain" is this causing you?
8

Please explain the issue you experienced in the most condensed way possible
I am playing thru the first game. I have Ireland and Alba (both tanist) and various other parts of the word (Dorset, York, Rouen and several counties in Wales). When the king dies, the counties go to the tanist (fine) but the scattered countries go to a newly created king (the hereditary heir of the deceased king - who is a duke in Alba) and is given rule over the aforementioned scattered realms except Wales. Ironically the newly created King title is King of Wales. The lost territories were all owned by one duke.

Please explain how to reproduce the issue
I can send you the file and run it until the king dies.

Is there anything else you think could help us identify/replicate the issue?


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[Zimst]

Yup, happens to me too but in another way:
I rule both the Danelaw (event) and the kingdom of Jorvik, both kingdoms. Since I don't want my sons to inherit one each but the main heir to inherit one I destroyed the other title (kingdom of Jorvik since the Danelaw was cooler). Imagine my surprise when as that character dies his two sons inherit one kingdom each. Jorvik just reappeared, without that char paying the 800 prestige or the money to create it. That sure threw a wrench into my plans. Going to go back to an older save and destroy Danelaw instead to see if that changes the outcome.

 

[Gui10]

The lowest level of partition (confederate partition) has precisely that as its main drawback. If you fulfill the requirements (aside from gold) titles of the same level as your main one will be created, thus granting them independence.
If you haven't switched from that, then it's the intended behaviour.

 

[Salacavalini]

I will add that unlike CK2 where elective succession was its own thing, in CK3 it's just an additional property on top of whatever regular succession you have. This means Tanistry is effectively nerfed from its CK2 version and no longer functions as a shortcut to keeping your realm from splintering.

 

[Zimst]

Ok, so confederate partition is probably to blame. It's a bit weird though that I pay the prestige and take the opinion hit to destroy Jorvik kingdom only to have it reappear out of nowhere. Also, Jorvik is the capital of my realm (the Danelaw), however it is not inherited by the primary heir (which it is supposed to, including that being the information in the tool tip). So I think some work is needed.

 

[ArduousBow]

One way to completely avoid this under confederate partition is to completely disinherit all but one of your children ( Males ) if you have male preference; it'll force all titles only going to the one son. However if this is an overly annoying issue; and you know you can't disinherit. You can give said son, only one title; making him relatively weak and when he inherits the kingdom immediately war him upon your heirs' ascension. Thus regaining the title as if nothing happened.

 

[Salacavalini]

Ok, so confederate partition is probably to blame. It's a bit weird though that I pay the prestige and take the opinion hit to destroy Jorvik kingdom only to have it reappear out of nowhere. Also, Jorvik is the capital of my realm (the Danelaw), however it is not inherited by the primary heir (which it is supposed to, including that being the information in the tool tip). So I think some work is needed.

You'd have to go into the title view for the duchy of Jorvik itself and click "Add Laws". You can add Scandinavian Elective to the duchy title which will give it its own election. If you're the only holder of the baronies in the duchy, you're the only elector and can just freely choose who inherits the duchy.
Note that county inheritance is still separate and cannot be changed, so odds are you'll lose your capital county if you play with any form of elective succession in the current state of the game.