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Hargrimm

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Short summary of your issue
Offer Guardian checks for University presence on the wrong character

Game Version
1.4.4

What OS are you playing on?
Windows

What platform are you using?
Steam

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Have you tried verifying your game files (Steam only)?
Yes

How much "pain" is this causing you?
3

Please explain the issue you experienced in the most condensed way possible
When you offer to be guardian of a ward in another ruler's court, the Send to University option only appears when the OTHER ruler has a university in their realm, not when you (who will be the guardian) do. Since you are offering to take the ward away from the court of the other ruler and educate them in your realm, the check should be the other way around.

Please explain how to reproduce the issue
By switching between characters in a realm that starts with a special university at 1066 start (Cairo, Pataliputra, Tirakka) it's easy to see how the interaction works.

Is there anything else you think could help us identify/replicate the issue?
In 00_interaction_effects, the condition is defined as:

scope:recipient = {
any_realm_province = {
has_university_building_trigger = yes
}
}

But in the context of the offer_guardianship_interaction I believe the "recipient" is the ruler in whose court the child is, not the character sending the request who will actually become the guardian and in whose realm the ward would be educated. So I think this check just needs a small change to flip the scope being examined.

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Hargrimm

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Just a note that this is still the case after the Fleur de Lis 1.5 patch. Quickest way to see it for yourself:

1. Start as Maghan Tunka Menin of Ghana in 1066. You have a University pre-built in Tirakka.
2. Interact with your vassal Debegume Biranin of Mema and offer yourself as the Guardian of his child. You will NOT have the "Send to University" option available even though you own one that you could have him attend.
3. Grant Tirakka to Biranin and then redo the Offer Guardian interaction. The "Send to University" option will now appear with a gold cost.
4. Switch to Biranin. Now if you choose to educate your own child yourself, you get the "Send to University" option. However, if you now offer yourself as Guardian to anyone else's child, then the option is not there. If you offer your own child as a Ward to someone like Menin who now does NOT have a University, nevertheless the "Send to University" option appears and is selectable even though you are sending the child away from the court that actually has the University available.