CK III - Electors give my player heir a -15 "Inbred Freak" modifier when she has no such trait

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GuiltyCol

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EDIT: The UI needs to explain this better, that the "bleeder, Scaley and infertile" negative traits are all types of inbreeding and assign an Inbred trait flag.

Short summary of your issue
BUG: Electors give my player heir a -15 "Inbred Freak" modifier when she has no such trait

Game Version
1.4.4

What OS are you playing on?
Windows

What platform are you using?
Steam

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Have you tried verifying your game files (Steam only)?
Yes

How much "pain" is this causing you?
8

Please explain the issue you experienced in the most condensed way possible
My player heir and daughter is being downvoted in elections with a -15 Inbred Freak modifier, when the character has no such attribute. See screen shots attached.

Please explain how to reproduce the issue
I suspect the threshold for showing the Inbred trait on a character page, is set at a different level to that of electors detection.

Is there anything else you think could help us identify/replicate the issue?
There is a level of interbreeding. My current character's great-grandfather is the same person as my husband's grandfather.

However no interbreeding trait is showing, so it cannot be right that electors give a negative for a trait she doesn't have.

Note if you search the forum, you'll see this bug was reported back on 08 October 2020 although the bug report there was written rather confusingly:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-1-2-ai-judges-unknown-inbred-freaks.1433560/

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GuiltyCol

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I think it is the bleeder trait, who gives your daughter the negative score in the election, because the bleeder trait enables inbreed.
Thanks Emperor 1997 I wasn't aware of that. You can see how it is confusing. Needs a UI / tooltip tweak perhaps to explain this. I shouldn't need to go searching here or Reddit to explain the game. From Reddit:

> "Those specific traits (bleeder, Scaley and infertile) have a line of code in them called "enables_inbred = yes""

https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/iqfgwg