Confirmed CK III - Can't declare war to press claim as celibate

[Nick1120]

Short summary of your issue Can't declare war to press claim as celibate

Game Version 1.0.2

What OS are you playing on?
Windows

What platform are you using?
Steam

Do you have mods enabled? No

Have you tried verifying your game files (Steam only)?
No

How much "pain" is this causing you?
2

Please explain the issue you experienced in the most condensed way possible
Took the decision to become celibate, and can no longer declare war to press my own claims.

Please explain how to reproduce the issue
Have the restraint perk in the learning lifestyle, take the decision to become celibate. Have a claim on a title (unpressed or pressed). click the declare war option on the person holding the title you have a claim on. On the "Your claims" button in the declare war screen, it will say you have no claims to press, and the declare war button will be grayed out saying "This Interaction is no longer valid to send". As soon as you take the decision to no longer be celibate, the option to declare war becomes available again.

Is there anything else you think could help us identify/replicate the issue?
I think it may have to do with having male dominated religious doctrine, as the "This Interaction is no longer valid to send" text is the same for if you're a woman trying to press a claim on a man. Perhaps becoming celibate makes you not a valid "male". It should be noted I'm not able to press a claim on a woman ruler either.

 

[Innsmouthcarnival]

Hello Nick1120!

The issue does not reproduce on our end, we require a save game to properly investigate the issue. Please attach a zipped save here, if possible.
Save games can usually be found at: C:\Users\[USERNAME]\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Crusader Kings III\save games

Cheers!

 

[eliminat]

Same issue. Became celibate through the perk, cannot declare wars for claims.
Abandoned celibacy, able to declare again.

 

[LloydSev]

To add, this happens in both single and multiplayer on this game save.

 

[El Janouss]

Yep, i came to say the same but i saw your post!

Same problem here when under "embrace celibacy", you have claims but you can't press them.

 

[Nick1120]

Thank you guys for responding, and thanks to the person who provided the save game. Would I have been able to provide a savegame from an ironman game anyway? Or would I need to start a non-ironman game and reproduce the issue? Thanks.

 

[destructivepyro]

I've run into the same issue!

 

[eblair]

ditto. Running vanilla no mods, after embracing celibacy i can no longer casus belli for my claims. I can use the declare war interaction but no casus belli populate in the view

 

[Baxter117]

Same bug here

 

[tinculin]

Six months on and this bug still exists.

 

[mariamegale]

Just wanted to say that I have this issue -- had no idea it existed until now. Just to update that it still exists after the recent update! <3

 

[Tiax]

I believe this bug is restricted to targets of the Byzantine culture group. See 00_claim.txt:

        #The Byzantine Emperor must be unblemished
        trigger_if = {
            limit = {
                OR = {
                    root = title:e_byzantium
                    root = title:e_roman_empire
                }
                scope:defender = { has_culture_group = culture_group:byzantine_group }
            }
            scope:claimant = {
                custom_description = {
                    text = "byzantine_claimant_is_disfigured"
                    object = scope:claimant
                    NOR = {
                        has_trait = incapable
                        has_trait = blind
                        has_trait = disfigured
                        has_trait = eunuch
                        has_trait = maimed
                        has_trait = one_eyed
                        has_trait = one_legged
                        has_trait = clubfooted
                        has_trait = hunchbacked
                        has_trait = dwarf
                    }
                }
            }
        }
        #Under Byzantine law, a ruler must be able to produce children.
        trigger_if = {
            limit = {
                scope:defender = { has_culture_group = culture_group:byzantine_group }
            }
            scope:claimant = {
                custom_description = {
                    text = "byzantine_claimant_is_celibate"
                    object = scope:claimant
                    NOR = {
                        has_trait = eunuch
                        has_trait = devoted
                        has_trait = celibate
                    }
                }
            }
        }
    }

Note that the first check is restricted to a claimant of e_byzantium or e_roman_empire. The second trigger *should* be similarly restricted but is not. It makes it so that celibate characters cannot press claims against *any* byzantine culture group target. This is probably why Paradox couldn't reproduce originally, and why people have only noticed it intermittently. It only applies to byzantine group targets.

 

[Omnitheo]

Thank you for this thread. Ran into same issue and had no idea why I couldn't declare. Abandoned celibacy and it worked. Suffice to say bug still exists in 1.4.4

 

[Wintermvte]

this issue STILL persists. I experienced it yesterday in our multiplayer session.
Embraced celibate as a Rurik prince (orthdox) got a claim from my head of faith on a kingdom title of white rus and could not declare war because there was no CB to be found.
Please fix this Paradox

 

[equaton]

Can confirm this is still an issue.

 

[sjp15991]

I can also once again confirm this is still happening. I have the disfigured trait as Duke of Boukellarion and cannot declare war on anyone, v stupid bug and cant believe it persists more than a year after above post!!!!

 

[Benjaminsnowman]

I am a Bosnian Count who lost his leg in a previous war, so I can't declare war using my claim on any Greek character for the rest of my life because I am 'disfigured' and because of Byzantine Legacy in Greek Culture. Its not so much I can't do it, but that there is no way for me to know this via any tool-tip when looking to declare war on the Greek character. It took me 10 minutes and a google search later to find out why I can't declare ware, despite being able to click on the 'Declare War' button, but just not having any Casus Belli. It sucks that there is no way besides a lot of digging and text reading to find that out in game that I can't declare war on a Greek because OH NO, I lost my leg at 20 so I guess I'm out of luck.

 

[BudgetHedgehog]

I think there's 2 issues here that are getting conflated.

Disfigured Greek characters not being able to press claims is WAD (though the associated issues with being able to declare war should be fixed, or some localisation to show why it's invalid).

Celibate characters not being able to press them is, in my opinion, a bug or at the very least, should be reviewed (reason being celibacy is a decision, not a physical aberration, and a character always has an heir anyway).

 

[GoldRumble]

This bug is still a thing 3 years later, come on paradox, do something about it.