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Vistariel

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Short summary of your issue
Cannot take Form Archduchy of Austria decision despite meeting requirements.

Game Version
1.5.1.1 (Fleur-de-lis)

What OS are you playing on?
Windows

What platform are you using?
Steam

What DLC do you have installed?
Royal Court,

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Have you tried verifying your game files (Steam only)?
Yes

How much "pain" is this causing you?
7

Please explain the issue you experienced in the most condensed way possible
Beginning as Habsburg Count of Aargau in 1066, I have fulfilled the requirements to take the Form Archduchy of Austria decision. However, the decision seems to be making the requirements BOTH/AND having a dynastic emperor with a strong hook, rather than EITHER/OR. Despite fulfilling the BOTH/AND criteria, it seems the decision doesn’t recognize anyone from cadet houses as qualifying for a dynastic emperor.

Please explain how to reproduce the issue
Try to take the decision when starting as Count of Aargau in 1066.

Is there anything else you think could help us identify/replicate the issue?
It seems to only recognize the parent/senior dynastic house for the dynastic emperor criteria, as well as both/and for the dynastic emperor or strong hook on emperor criteria.

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I dont see what is wrong.
your liege has the same Dynasty (a Cadet Branch) as you have. (else add a screenshot of yourself, like you have of nikolaus your liege)
and one requirement say HRE leader is not allowed to be of the same Dynasty as you are.
that means if your Dynasty lose the HRE title you can form your Archduchy of Austria.
 

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I dont see what is wrong.
your liege has the same Dynasty (a Cadet Branch) as you have. (else add a screenshot of yourself, like you have of nikolaus your liege)
and one requirement say HRE leader is not allowed to be of the same Dynasty as you are.
that means if your Dynasty lose the HRE title you can form your Archduchy of Austria.
The issue is that the decision is coded wrong. It is supposed to be EITHER the emperor is same dynasty OR have strong hook on the emperor. This decision is written BOTH/AND for this criteria, as well as inverting the value for the dynasty criteria (emperor must NOT be of your dynasty). It needs to be corrected.
 
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decision is coded wrong
is it coded wrong? (does code-comment say something other?)
or is your statement based on the wiki, which is not maintained by paradox but by users. (and therefore maybe not correct)?
 

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is it coded wrong? (does code-comment say something other?)
or is your statement based on the wiki, which is not maintained by paradox but by users. (and therefore maybe not correct)?
I am basing my comment upon what was said about the decisions in a dev diary forever ago, as well as history: there was a Habsburg on the Imperial Throne when Austria was elevated to the status of Archduchy.
 
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