CK III - Attempted Murder of the King Is Not Punishable

[SonofWinter]

Short summary of your issue
Attempted Murder of the King Is Not Punishable

Game Version
Current

What OS are you playing on?
Windows

What platform are you using?
Steam

What DLC do you have installed?
Royal Court,

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Have you tried verifying your game files (Steam only)?
No

How much "pain" is this causing you?
7

Please explain the issue you experienced in the most condensed way possible
I have caught a traitor attempting to murder ME the Emperor of West Slavia.

I can't strip him of his titles because I will get 25 tyranny. Apparently Attempted Regicide, is NOT a crime worthy of being punished for.

Please explain how to reproduce the issue
Turn on my game, click on the button that sees the attempted murderer and see if you can revoke his titles.

Is there anything else you think could help us identify/replicate the issue?
No

I have attached a save game
Yes

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[Emperor 1997]

Did you have exposed the secret?
Because you can revoke or execute someone who wants you dead, but only if is known and not a secret.

 

[SonofWinter]

Did you have exposed the secret?
Because you can revoke or execute someone who wants you dead, but only if is known and not a secret.

I have moved on, so that save is not there. Besides, how can you arrest someone if the reason is secret?

 

[La Clef]

As far as I remember, when someone tried to kill you, you get a legitimate reason to execute him or her but don't get one to revoke his or her title. It is understandable: execution is a harsher punishment than revocation and regicide deserves death. But, on the other hand, in terms of game mechanics, revocation is a far more powerful tool. That's why we're suprised we can't use it without gaining tyranny. From a gameplay point of view, it's illogical.

 

[Karlington]

It justifies imprisonment, execution, and banishment, but not revocation.

 

[SonofWinter]

It justifies imprisonment, execution, and banishment, but not revocation.

The logic being, the man who attempted the murder of his King can be executed but his sons get to inherit his wealth and try again, and again, and again until one of them succeeds?

That seems like a poorly considered mechanic.

 

[La Clef]

The logic being, the man who attempted the murder of his King can be executed but his sons get to inherit his wealth and try again, and again, and again until one of them succeeds?

Regicide doesn't depend on genetics.

 

[Karlington]

The logic being, the man who attempted the murder of his King can be executed but his sons get to inherit his wealth and try again, and again, and again until one of them succeeds?

That seems like a poorly considered mechanic.

Regicide doesn't depend on genetics.

I think he was more considering as if he were a player. The AI works differently, though, and not every character who stands to gain from a death will ceaselessly plot murder.

(At least I think not? The CK3 AI isn't as well-developed as the CK2 one was, for all its flaws, so I can't be sure! )

 

[SonofWinter]

Regicide doesn't depend on genetics.

Yes but every time you execute a member of the family you get a -40 with all members of the family (or -80.) So eventually, it could become a spiral of hatred, as you keep executing one member after another, as they all attempt to assassinate your king.

 

[La Clef]

Yes but every time you execute a member of the family you get a -40 with all members of the family (or -80.) So eventually, it could become a spiral of hatred, as you keep executing one member after another, as they all attempt to assassinate your king.

Perhaps it could be but I never notice such spiral. You, as a player, have many tools to handle this kind of situation.