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Short summary of your issue CK3 1.1.2 Stops responding for very long times

Game Version 1.1.2 (Chevron)

What OS are you playing on?
Windows

What platform are you using?
Steam

Do you have mods enabled? No

Have you tried verifying your game files (Steam only)?
Yes

How much "pain" is this causing you?
10

Please explain the issue you experienced in the most condensed way possible
The game freezes and "Stops responding" for minutes before the game becomes responsive once again.

Please explain how to reproduce the issue
Was playing the game for long time (hours) without issues. Then game stopped responding (windows suggested to end the process) I didn't want to loose my progress so I left it and all of a sudden it started moving again. Played for a few more minutes before it froze again. Waited and again it started responding after a few minutes, decided it'd probably be good to close the game and ironman-save. Tried starting the game and after clicking "play" in the launcher, it took minutes, during which the game appeared as "not responding", before the loading screen showed and the music started. Once in the game, I could play without issues until it again froze.

While the first two in game freezes occured "randomly" (or I didn't notice what triggered it at least), the third time, after the restart, I noted that it happened as I tried to open the Succession tab of the realm window.

While writing this report, the game froze in the background and has been "not responding" for at least 10 minutes now, so I'm gonna kill it.

Is there anything else you think could help us identify/replicate the issue?
The game stops responding while the computer remains responsive. I noticed that the music continues playing. During the third freeze, I also looked at task manager and noted that CK3 takes consumes basically no memory (20 MB), no CPU (=<0.5%), no disk and no network.

And I know this is probably unrelated but it was so synchronized I felt like I could probably mention it; During the first freeze, the game unfroze in the background at the same moment i un-muted a stream in chrome. During the third freeze, the game unfroze as a I took a printscreen using Windows+shitft+S snip tool.

I could also mention that the game was doing this "not responding" on launch when I tried to start the game after the 1.1 update for the first time. At that point I did a complete re-install and deletion of Documents/Paradox Interactive, and then the game was still not responding. so I left it for a few days and then started it again, and now it was working, until I ran into the issues explained above.

There is no crash logs since the game never crashes, just stops responding until I ask windows to kill it. I tried to look if there was any cache that was updated around the time when the game started freezing, but can't see any. I zipped the entirity of `Documents/Paradox Interactive/Crusader Kings III` since I deleted it complety a few days ago, I imagine most of it is relevant. I also checked `C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\{my id}1\1158310\remote\save games` and the save file seems outdated, but I attached it anyway

I'll try to reboot my computer, reinstall and deleting the documents folder agian, will report if any of it fixes the problems.

I have attached a save game
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So I rebooted my computer and launched the game, now it loaded in directly without any freezing... I'll see if it freezes any during game.

If a reebot fixes it, it feels like some process that needs to be restarted? But I don't know if there's any processes that keeps running after killing the game? Could something in steam cause it?
 

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So I rebooted my computer and launched the game, now it loaded in directly without any freezing... I'll see if it freezes any during game.

If a reebot fixes it, it feels like some process that needs to be restarted? But I don't know if there's any processes that keeps running after killing the game? Could something in steam cause it?

Have you tried turning down the graphics settings down? Any way to monitor your video card temperate?
 

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It happened while playing today and I had a look at my gpu log and it doesn't look like it was not overheating. 83 degrees just before freezing.
 

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So after it happened I tried to investigate a bit more.

So after it happens once, whenever I click "Play" or "Resume", the ck3 process spawns and instantly is marked as "not responding", uses about 20 MB memory, basically no CPU and GPU, and no Network or Disk. It takes 1 minute and 45 seconds (1m46s, 1m43s and 1m41s the three times I timed it), until the loading screen appears, but not for very long before the game loads as normal.

The following actions does not fix it, meaning the game will still start as "not responding".

  • Killing the game
  • Killing steam
  • Restarting graphics driver (Ctrl+Shift+Windows+B) before launching
  • Restarting graphics driver during the "not responding"
  • Closing other processes (mainly chrome) before launching
  • Killing Nvidia overlay processes before launching
  • Logging out and in again
Then I rebooted the machine, directly started Crusader Kings, hit the "play" and within seconds, the game launches with the loading screen and music.

I don't understand what state persists through logging out but not from rebooting... I suspected the graphics somehow, but since restarting that process doesn't seem to fix it either, I'm at a loss to know exactly what's going wrong.
 

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It happened to me right now! I was focusing on another window, and then it froze, don't know if it froze when I focused it or if it froze in the background.
I unplugged my mouse and plugged it back in, still not responding. Unplugged my keyboard and back in and it started working!

I have a Corsair Strafe RGB which is running Firmware 2.05 according to Corsair Utility Engine.