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Roborbinin Ulf

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One line summary of your issue
Converting to or from Muslim temporarily gives more levies/tax 2.8.3.2

Game Version
2.8.3.2

What expansions do you have installed?
All of the above

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
From what I have tested, when I have converted from catholic or hindu to sunni, my levy and tax obligations laws for the nobles have glitched out somewhat, becoming different to what laws I actually have in place, usually increasing. Going from balanced noble obligations (minimum 40% levy) as a catholic to sunni will increase the actualy levies you get to be 75%, even though the laws are still on balanced. This resets after reloading the game.

After a small additional amount of testing, it would appear that converting to muslim and getting iqta obligation laws simply adds +35% minimum levy and +25% tax to the laws you already had in place for your nobles. It can't be applied more than once, and immediately changing religion back lets you still keep your the bonus. I am unsure how long it lasts, or if it still works after succession, but it does stay even if you chagne your obligation laws after doing the exploit. Reloading the game still fixes it.

Actually having done a bit more testing now; dying and passing your titles in succession does not reset the glitch. Funnily enough, converting from islam to any other religion without iqta also causes the bug to occur. It would appear that both the feudal and iqta obligations are being applied at once.

As a sidenote, trying this out and converting Karl of Francia to Sunni, then switching to his brother to continue testing, Karl attacked me with his then enormous army and could easily defeat me lol. This exploit could potentially be huge, and it works just as well in Ironman, which is where I found the glitch (converting from hindu to sunni to get holy war cb on neighbours. Suddenly I noticed I had gotten +10k available levies)

Steps to reproduce the issue.
Be non-muslim and have a normal feudal society.
Become muslim to get iqta government.
Enjoy wildly high amounts of levies.
Reconvert to your old religion if wanted.
Reload the game to fix.

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With the ability to easily and quickly convert via "secretly convert" then "Personally adopt faith" makes this exploit easy to do once then revert back to your old religion. This way you get to keep extremely powerful bonuses for that entire session with almost no work.

Just for fun: A picture of HRE in 1066 start date with the exploit. Scary stuff :eek:
 

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