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Rags17

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One line summary of your issue
Bug or WAI - Inheriting rebel tribal retinues

Game Version
3.0

What expansions do you have installed?
All of the above

Do you have mods enabled?
Yes - personal flavor and courtly events mods only

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
Playing random world I have unified all of Greece and formed the Kingdom before converting to Feudalism and consoling myself as Secret Hellenic. I finally came out and have been purging my realm of heathens and heretics ever since. Every time I win a civil war I revoke my High Chief vassals' titles and gain control of all of their remaining retinues.

I kept my original tribal retinues and have been careful to keep them maintained - my retinue use was 1,500 with a cap of 400 before the civil wars, it is now up to about 2,500 with about 2,000 troops available, with the same current cap of around 400.

Is this WAI or is it a bug. It doesn't feel like a bug but it may just be a bit overpowered as I realised that continually granting, Spying, fighting and revoking my tribal High Chiefs could end up with me (a feudal) having a massive tribal retinue army.

I am happy whether this mechanic is kept or "fixed".

Steps to reproduce the issue.
Form Tribal Kingdom
Use full allowable tribal retinue cap
Set up one Tribal High Chief vassal
Convert to Feudalism
Wait for High Chief vassal to form own tribal retinues
Imprison High Chief vassal and revoke their title, their retinues should now be yours.

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Rags17

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I'd be happy if any retinue that requires prestige or piety to maintain simply stopped replenishing as soon as you became feudal. Makes sense to me. :)