CK II - [3.0] No option to form Holy Roman Empire

[thetazerlaser]

One line summary of your issue
[3.0] No option to form Holy Roman Empire

Game Version
3.0

What expansions do you have installed?
Jade Dragon,
Monks & Mystics,
The Reapers Due,
Conclave,
Horse Lords,
Way of Life,
Charlemagne,
Rajas of India,
Sons of Abraham,
The Old Gods,
The Republic,
Legacy of Rome,
Sword of Islam

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
Charlemagne and Carloman lack the decision to form the Holy Roman Empire

Steps to reproduce the issue.


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[[KPD]Fidel]

Same Issue here.

 

[Tassadarh]

Same Issue!

 

[michx0]

It is because one of the conditions is e_hre to be titular, but it is not titular, so I don't know the logic behind this.

 

[nikssims]

Any quick fix for this to edit in the files? I too have the same problem. No decision to form the HRE.
Playing with custom dynasty, no mods.

 

[michx0]

Any quick fix for this to edit in the files? I too have the same problem. No decision to form the HRE.
Playing with custom dynasty, no mods.

If you know how to create mods, it is easy. Find decisions->realm decisions.txt. Then find
form_the_hre_early = {
...
conditional_tooltip = {
trigger = {
is_alternate_start = no
}
NOT = { has_global_flag = charlemagne_hre }
e_hre = {
is_titular = yes
}
}

and change it to

conditional_tooltip = {
trigger = {
is_alternate_start = no
}
NOT = { has_global_flag = charlemagne_hre }
# e_hre = {
# is_titular = yes
# }
}

But, again, I don't know why this condition is there, use it at your own risk.

 

[nikssims]

If you know how to create mods, it is easy. Find decisions->realm decisions.txt. Then find
form_the_hre_early = {
...
conditional_tooltip = {
trigger = {
is_alternate_start = no
}
NOT = { has_global_flag = charlemagne_hre }
e_hre = {
is_titular = yes
}
}

and change it to

conditional_tooltip = {
trigger = {
is_alternate_start = no
}
NOT = { has_global_flag = charlemagne_hre }
# e_hre = {
# is_titular = yes
# }
}

But, again, I don't know why this condition is there, use it at your own risk.

Thanks! I tried it on my old save where I did not have the decision to form HRE and it looks like it is fixed. However I was too impatient yesterday and I added a the "charlemagne_hre" global flag to my savegame and I also got the decision to form HRE. I am not sure what that flag does, but I managed to form HRE just fine.

 

[[KPD]Fidel]

Isn't that the exact same thing? What did you change?

 

[nikssims]

Isn't that the exact same thing? What did you change?

I am not sure. I only edited my savegame and added a global flag called "charlemagne_hre". After that decision to form HRE appeared in my game.

 

[[KPD]Fidel]

I am not sure. I only edited my savegame and added a global flag called "charlemagne_hre". After that decision to form HRE appeared in my game.

I'm talking about your change. Their seems to be no change as you already have a global flag called "charlemagne_hre" in the lines you quote. So I was asking what exactly you changed.

Btw. I agree with your question about not sure what it changes. It would help mightly if a Paradox Admin could tell us if this is a viable change or if we destroy something with it.

 

[nikssims]

I did not edit any lines, I only edited my savegame file. I added the HRE global flag to my savegame, not added it removed it from the realm_decisions.txt file.

 

[[KPD]Fidel]

I did not edit any lines, I only edited my savegame file. I added the HRE global flag to my savegame, not added it removed it from the realm_decisions.txt file.

You said to mod the realm decision file but the text you posted is basically exactly the same. So how exactly am I supposed to edit it?

 

[nikssims]

You said to mod the realm decision file but the text you posted is basically exactly the same. So how exactly am I supposed to edit it?

What text have I posted? Where did I say that I modded a realm decision file? I am sorry but I have absolutely no idea what are you talking about now. Just as I said earlier today, I did not edit any lines, I only edited my savegame file. I added the HRE global flag to my savegame, not added it removed it from the realm_decisions.txt file.
You might be confusing me with user michx0 who posted instructions on how to edit the decisions file and fix the issue.