Civlization score & Colonise

[Crispin]

When reading about the requirements to colonise a province I have to have 10 people and a civlization score of minimum 50. Where can I see my civilization score? And I have on numerous occasions been unable to colonise with Massilla even though I meet all the requirements(Atleast I think I have vic score of 50 since I have been able to colonise before) and im the only nation linked with that particular province.

So how exactly does this work? It seems that there is more at stake that just the two requirements listed.

 

[lenny]

Civ value is in the province overview. (IIRC, right next to the governor’s portrait.) It increases slowly over time and is decreased by e.g. barbarian invasions or colonization. It will take a while to raise civ values in a colony so that you can further expand from that colony.

 

[Eddy Gemmell]

Civ value is in the province overview. (IIRC, right next to the governor’s portrait.) It increases slowly over time and is decreased by e.g. barbarian invasions or colonization. It will take a while to raise civ values in a colony so that you can further expand from that colony.

I noticed that amd actually think it's a brilliant way of stopping players colonising the entire continent in a couple of years. Makes real sense in terms of having a fun game.

 

[Nelfe]

Civilization score can be seen when you click on a province :

It depend on variable you can see in the screen.

For colonise a neutral province : you must have 10 people and 50civ in a province linked with it.

AND

You must destroy all barbarians ennemies in the province ! Place an army in the province you want (with 10-12 units, barbarians hordes are powerful). At certain time, a barbarien horde will spawn, destroy it and you'll be able to colonise the province.

 

[TheLand]

So how exactly does this work? It seems that there is more at stake that just the two requirements listed.

Don't forget that when you colonise, population in the frontier province you are sending the colonists from falls. So even if the frontier province still has Civ > 50%, its population might have fallen!

Grain is really important for colonisation because population growth happens faster in low-population provs and hence grain makes a bigger difference.

 

[Crispin]

Aha! Makes perfect sense really, as mention, prevents max colonising from the start Thank you all.

 

[yamato1977]

AND

You must destroy all barbarians ennemies in the province ! Place an army in the province you want (with 10-12 units, barbarians hordes are powerful). At certain time, a barbarien horde will spawn, destroy it and you'll be able to colonise the province.

is that the only way to do it? I thought as such and put a 8 unit stack in a province that i wasnt allowed to colonise due to barbarians being to large in number (only 2 in this case).. Anyhoo, after a fair few years they never bothered to "rise up" so to speak, so that they may die so that i may colonise. Is there a trick for doing this? (it could really use a button to kick this off)

ta people

 

[TheLand]

is that the only way to do it? I thought as such and put a 8 unit stack in a province that i wasnt allowed to colonise due to barbarians being to large in number (only 2 in this case).. Anyhoo, after a fair few years they never bothered to "rise up" so to speak, so that they may die so that i may colonise. Is there a trick for doing this? (it could really use a button to kick this off)

ta people

Nope.

You can move your troops home to avoid attrition, wait 10 years until the Barbarian Power is higher, and then move your troops back to get them to horde at you.

 

[VPeric]

Grain is really important for colonisation because population growth happens faster in low-population provs and hence grain makes a bigger difference.

Really? I thought the growth was a function of the current population, so the more you have, the bigger it grows. At least that's how it works in RL.

 

[lenny]

Really? I thought the growth was a function of the current population, so the more you have, the bigger it grows. At least that's how it works in RL.

Johan stated in another thread that pop growth below 10 is 10 times faster than above 10. (I.e. below 10 population the growth rate you see is annual, beyond 10 it is per decade.)

 

[VPeric]

Ah, I see, thanks!