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Civilization: Beyond Earth?
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I actually dont mind if developers take inspiration in other games, if it fits nicely in PDX games, why not?
Besides, today there is so many games or other similar media and to come out with something new and different (and useful) is really hard.
Besides, today there is so many games or other similar media and to come out with something new and different (and useful) is really hard.
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How strange, those troopers look eerily close to the Spartans from Halo...
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Honestly, there's only so many words.
Endless Space had the Harmony faction, Fallout 3 had Project Purity. And so on.
Endless Space had the Harmony faction, Fallout 3 had Project Purity. And so on.
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Wait a minute... 3 traditions share names with 3 beyond earth affinities? 3
endless space 1 had harmony? endless space 1 is getting a sequel endless space 2 1+2 = 3
Fallout 3 had purity? 3
How many sides does a triangle have? 3
What triangle do we know? right the Illuminati one.
Paradox = Illuminati confirmed
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As lng as they are better than what the travesty beyond earth was at release they can call them anything and I wont care.
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ye i hated it. still havent gone back to it. the interface, colours, textures balencing and completly uninteresting races,factions and tech
but you said at launch? i assumed the game was unfixable. its it even worth downloading now?
also not a fan of the new CIV its too cartooney/"bubblely" looking for me
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Considering most paradox RTS game are euphemistically called map painting simulators I'm surprised to hear that, honestly.
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Yep, I checked and they're all in the dictionary... knew I had seen them somewhere before!!
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No idea, never went back to it. It could never hold a candle against Alpha Centauri, so when I want civ in space i tend to go for that.
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Half-Life 3 confirmed.
My work here is done.
Or the Combine soldiers from Half-Life 3.
Edit: lol 2 I ment.
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Plus look at that purity symbol. More evidence for Illuminati.
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The point I was making is Sci-fi like all other genres is derivative
Not to say that its a bad thing, but tropes/designs and ideas get reused and recycled and tooled into different franchises.
look at LOTR, Warhammer and Warcraft in fantasy.
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Yeah it is and it seems there is nothing we can do about it. Human fantasy has reached its limit no new ideas. Even every second movie now is a reebot.
Though I cant blame PD as for example one race of the Game Endless Space 2 looks exactly like the soldiers from the OP image of the sumpremacists even their triangle like symbol and color design is very similar.
There's a lot of crossover with terms, designs and other stuff between the space 4x games out there. In this instance, I think it's pretty easy to independently land on the same kinds of terms/ideas. I personally can't think of many other words you could pick either.
And really, aside from maybe Purity, Harmony and Supremacy really don't seem to have much in common with their incarnations in Beyond Earth.
And really, aside from maybe Purity, Harmony and Supremacy really don't seem to have much in common with their incarnations in Beyond Earth.
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Everyone seems to be interpreting this as me accusing Paradox of copying CivBE, but I was just pointing out something interesting. Sorry for any rustled jimmies.
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Indeed, tot really that many alternatives to chose from when you simplify the narrative paths to it's simplest forms. Could also accuse civilization 5 team Fireaxis or whatver their called now of stealing the paths from Frank Herberts Dune.
The original alpha centauri was awesome, the New one Beyond Earth is so simplified it lacks all the immersive uniqueness that separeted the factions in the original. In the New Beyond Earth game I can't tell any difference from the factions based on their actions whereas in the original you had huge difference.
Example:
University: Focus on Technology, huge penalties for raising armies so they tip the Balance With having better weapons or just nuking you.
The Lords Believers: Big penalty to Technology and habitability but makes up for it by breeding like Rabbits and raising huge hosts of armies.
Human Hive: Collectivist, penalty to economy but great industry. Very aggressive military and mediocre Tech. Acts basically like the USSR, if you don't submit he will attack you.
Spartan Federation: Isolationist and elite armies, want to be left alone With their guns and freedom.
Environmentalists: Great habitability and Food but weak armies (hippies after all), but can become Dangerous when they learn how to use the enviornment to cleanse you.
Would be cool if the Stellaris devs could look to original Alpha Centauri for more flavor and much deeper Depth that will allow for better gameplay With emergent conflicts isntead of the boring as ***** Civ5 fireaxis *****. Hopefully 7 paths instead of just 3 will mean this.
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My absolute favourite reading of Civilizations: Beyond Earth was that it represents a surprisingly fatalistic view of humanity making all the exact same mistakes we made on Earth on an alien world- all the while crowing at how much more advanced we are and how clearly this time is different.
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Also similar:
Galactic Civilisations 3 allignment Sytem (however a lot less tree-ish).
Every RPG Talent Tree ever, including later Total Wars and Star Wolves series games.
Every tech tree ever. Including the semi-hidden one in Stellaris.
Realy that is about as novel a concept as Regenerating health. Wich actually predates Call of Duty with a old game where you play a Smily Face.
Or destructible Environemt. Wich was in Space Invaders first.
Only so many game concepts to go around.
If I had to translate the BE Affinities to Stellaris I would say:
Purity: Xenophobe
Supremacy: Materialist
Harmoy: Xenophile
Galactic Civilisations 3 allignment Sytem (however a lot less tree-ish).
Every RPG Talent Tree ever, including later Total Wars and Star Wolves series games.
Every tech tree ever. Including the semi-hidden one in Stellaris.
Realy that is about as novel a concept as Regenerating health. Wich actually predates Call of Duty with a old game where you play a Smily Face.
Or destructible Environemt. Wich was in Space Invaders first.
Only so many game concepts to go around.
If I had to translate the BE Affinities to Stellaris I would say:
Purity: Xenophobe
Supremacy: Materialist
Harmoy: Xenophile
Humantiy does avoid pollution this time. The Cities are small communities, that are highly effective. The meta is designed around more flat then "per pop" modifiers. It is a subtle difference, but a noticeable one once you look a bit.
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