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I like that the game now has some kind of civil law enforcement model but feel we could do more with it in the form of a new category of policies called civil enforcement! Currently I have three options in mind:

Civil Enforcement-Default enforcement option that grants current effects

Principled- Enforcers under the principled policy act according to a set of principles in service to their community causing enforcers to provide a small amount of amenities in addition to their normal effects. Maybe requires some degree of egalitarian

Militarized- Enforcers under the militarized policy are closer to militia forces than civil servants providing an additional army and a small amount of additional fleet cap but only provide half their unity. Probably unusable by fanatic pacifists.

Inquisition/Secret Police- Enforcers under the Inquisition policy function as inquisitors rooting out dissidents or heretics of the empire. Enforcers are less effective at combating crime but will be strongly pulled towards the governing ethics of the empire and will likewise influence other pops into abandoning their "incorrect" ethos.



Who else has ideas?
 

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I like the idea of having an inquisition or secret police, the question of "how much surveillance is infringing on the citizens rights" and answers like "so what you're telling me you're a goddamn heretic", the possibility of controlling mass and social media, having migration security both intra-empire and within empire vs more free flow. All this could be a part of an upcomming espionage dlc (paradox pls).

IMO I think the concept of a militarized police could be captured in a civic that converts both enforcers and soldiers into a "military police" job that does a little of both jobs (and also precincts and fortresses are combined into a fortress of justice)
 

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Militarist: Military police
Pacifist: Volunteer peacekeepers
Authoritarian: Secret police, citizen hint system
Egalitarian: Principled enforcers
Materialist: Drone camera network
Spiritualist: Inquisition
Xenophobe: Mandatory xeno registration
Xenophile: Xeno enforcer integration

All of these could affect ideology pull and cause additional effects to Enforcers, making them more viable investments. Authoritarians could have access to more edicts to control their civilians.
 

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I like the idea of having an inquisition or secret police, the question of "how much surveillance is infringing on the citizens rights" and answers like "so what you're telling me you're a goddamn heretic", the possibility of controlling mass and social media, having migration security both intra-empire and within empire vs more free flow. All this could be a part of an upcomming espionage dlc (paradox pls).

IMO I think the concept of a militarized police could be captured in a civic that converts both enforcers and soldiers into a "military police" job that does a little of both jobs (and also precincts and fortresses are combined into a fortress of justice)
Yeah I think such a system would tie in well with the police state civic. It'd go well with a general trend toward making civics more interesting and involved which would be cool.
 

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Militarist: Military police
Pacifist: Volunteer peacekeepers
Authoritarian: Secret police, citizen hint system
Egalitarian: Principled enforcers
Materialist: Drone camera network
Spiritualist: Inquisition
Xenophobe: Mandatory xeno registration
Xenophile: Xeno enforcer integration

All of these could affect ideology pull and cause additional effects to Enforcers, making them more viable investments. Authoritarians could have access to more edicts to control their civilians.
I dunno if each ethos necessarily needs its own option but i like the drone camera network, or maybe some kind of "Integrated security" scheme where everything has a camera and microphone.
 

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The more Orwelian options I get the more happy I am, being a huge fan of dystopian literature. Mind controlling drugs, cameras, thought police, drones, government controlled mass media, mandatory security check points, neural mood monitoring, social media point system, GPS-trackers planted to vital organs etc... More choices the better :)
 

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The more Orwelian options I get the more happy I am, being a huge fan of dystopian literature. Mind controlling drugs, cameras, thought police, drones, government controlled mass media, mandatory security check points, neural mood monitoring, social media point system, GPS-trackers planted to vital organs etc... More choices the better :)
Agreed, especially psionic thought police!
 

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We would need crime to actually matter and be difficult to control on heavuly populated planets for this to matter.

Currently crime has a minor effect outside of Criminal Megacorps and is rarely even an issue. It's just a machanic that exists for Criminal Megacorps, it doesn't really play into the rest of the system.