If you're rush-capping UK, picking up DEI is trivial. If IJN declares on you over that, it's THEM who are at risk of getting fuel denied (naval bomb them off coast of indonesia, keep your convoy routes from west coast of that island, intercept trade routes from middle east/venezuela outside their air cover).
Rush capping? Even if you somehow capture dei, the time between that and Danzig requires refineries.
No, the situation I'm describing implies the war vs allies is over before '39. No time for refineries.
Oil is shipped instantly making it impossible to interdict oil in any meaningful way.
Right-I almost feel I need to change my signature stipulating presumption that discussion of gameplay exlcudes exploits, wildly ahistorical nonsense like starting war in 36 etc.
That not how it work. Oil shipped in convoys and every time convoy sink, you cut of on amount of convoys sink for some derivation, indicated to you by game by red trade, when trade request not go try.
I appreciate you're not in charge of game design, but with bonuses like that one can assume Refineries were desinged for Germany using them solely.
Theoretically Soviet Union could use them. It has +1 bonus in his focus. Reason probably is ahistorical Soviet Union go to war with Allies, it loosing all access to rubber.
It is one of the most common use cases yes, since
This isn't necessarily true. If you form Vichy France, you can freely trade for their 80+ rubber nearly exclusively until Japan demands Indochina, so you usually have a year or so from the capitulation of France when you have plenty of rubber. And if you plan your build properly you should have plenty of planes stockpiled from before the war started to take out France before lack of rubber becomes an issue.
Pretty much this. Occasionally the Allies can be forced to build refineries if Japan is able to cut off the world's rubber supply, but no one except the European Axis really has a need for synthetic rubber on a consistent basis.
No, you need two lines of fighters, which requires rubber. French indochina often falls to Free France before going to Japan.
You build mils first so you can have 50 factories on fighter 2 by the start of 1939, using imported rubber. The planes you stockpile before the war should be more than enough to have air superiority from the start of the war through the capitulation of France. Between Danzig or War and the capitulation of France you will have a rubber shortage, but you have the stockpiled planes to rely on. Once you have the western front secured you can start building synthetic refineries and rely on Vichy France for rubber in the meantime to ramp up plane production even more.
Yeah, your refinery needs really depend on how much you intend to invest in air. But for a historical game when you're having 50-100 factories on planes it's generally not possible to get enough rubber from trade after the war starts.
How is that? Indochina has a 85% chance to stay with Vichy, and only 15% to switch to Free France, if France does Appeal to the Overseas terrtitories. Which also takes a while to get to that focus for Free France.
Two lines is thirty factories. But another eight for stukas, five or so for heavy fighters. That is before France surrenders. After another line of fighters, 10-12 or more on naval bombers.
Expert ai. It's always random what foes to Vichy and what does not.
