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I wouldn't imagine so, it's a new building. Patches just tend to include fixes for bugs and compatibility stuff.
patches include free stuff all the time, day/night cycle, tunnels and canals etc. they accidentally revealed libraries were in the free patch during the first live stream.
 

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Libraries are part of the free patch :) More information about them on today's dev diary!
Interesting.

I'll probably still get the DLC though. I thought it was lame at first, but the feature for improvement through buildings/possible academic works sold me (plus the pretty, pretty buildings, dammit CO you keep doing this!)
 

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I got a question from the past Dev Diary that isn't responded by the Devs yet: Is the stadiums on Campus compatible with the Match Day DLC?
Additional question, which they didn't respond to (but maybe on Stream?): Could you make the Match Day-Stadium also a non-unique building like the varsity arenas?
 

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Additional question, which they didn't respond to (but maybe on Stream?): Could you make the Match Day-Stadium also a non-unique building like the varsity arenas?
We have not planned for this, but thank you for the feedback and we will think about it! But no promises at this point. In the meanwhile there is the mod "Not So Unique Buildings" by BloodyPenguin which will allow you to place as many unique buildings as you want :)
 

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We have not planned for this, but thank you for the feedback and we will think about it! But no promises at this point. In the meanwhile there is the mod "Not So Unique Buildings" by BloodyPenguin which will allow you to place as many unique buildings as you want :)
Thank you! I'm hoping for it, it seems like a not-so-big-deal, since the varsity areans are introduced. And thanks for the mod suggestion.:)
 

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It is explained in a comment above. I want the University areans from Campus to work like the Match Day DLC, rather than restricted to inside campuses only.
they have already shown in the official youtube videos on the official youtube channel how the stadiums work, maybe go get readily available information instead of harping on the devs to answer your every tiny question.

Hint: it's the video titled "Varsity Sports"
 

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they have already shown in the official youtube videos on the official youtube channel how the stadiums work, maybe go get readily available information instead of harping on the devs to answer your every tiny question.

Hint: it's the video titled "Varsity Sports"
I apologize if I didn't know. I don't watch much Youtube videos recently due to lack of time available.
 

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I know it won't be my first campus since I've been building my own for four years already ;p

It reduces my happiness a lot too. For profit education is abhorrent. I'm quite surprised by CO for promoting it over free education for all.

My plans are to continue building my own campus and creating my own maps. I might consider this DLC in 6 months time for half of the cost, but otherwise I'm not overly excited by what I've seen so far. It's a little too American and a dream for Betsy Devos. The maps will probably require an edit to the intercity connections as always too.
Lighten up, Francis. They let you offer free to students education for a cost in money, or make students pay, for a cost in happiness. Its just another way for players to balance a budget versus public approval.

Really, ‘abhorrent’ is so over the top for a video game.
 

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Lighten up, Francis. They let you offer free to students education for a cost in money, or make students pay, for a cost in happiness. Its just another way for players to balance a budget versus public approval.

Really, ‘abhorrent’ is so over the top for a video game.
You hit the nail on the head there as it is a game and nobody actually pays for the education in the game.
If I offer to provide free education, the city's/my coffers pay for it and if the students pay, they can use their magical pockets of unlimited wealth.
Why then is there a happiness cost at all?

As for abhorrent, perhaps that was too harsh an adjective for the policy of 'for profit education' and so perhaps, as it is my own experience and opinion, I should have used despicable instead.
Did you, may I ask, receive a full education that you had to pay for? And if you did, what was it like to live with student loan debt?
I did and personally, I despised it and abhorred it.

What I'm quite surprised about though is that CO would provide this in their game. I expected CO, coming from Finland, a country whose quality of education, regarded as second to none in the world and has a policy of free education for all and at every level, would show more favour in a free education model.
 

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the new maps look nice!
 

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You hit the nail on the head there as it is a game and nobody actually pays for the education in the game.
If I offer to provide free education, the city's/my coffers pay for it and if the students pay, they can use their magical pockets of unlimited wealth.
Why then is there a happiness cost at all?

As for abhorrent, perhaps that was too harsh an adjective for the policy of 'for profit education' and so perhaps, as it is my own experience and opinion, I should have used despicable instead.
Did you, may I ask, receive a full education that you had to pay for? And if you did, what was it like to live with student loan debt?
I did and personally, I despised it and abhorred it.

What I'm quite surprised about though is that CO would provide this in their game. I expected CO, coming from Finland, a country whose quality of education, regarded as second to none in the world and has a policy of free education for all and at every level, would show more favour in a free education model.
I paid for my own education entirely on mu own, paid way too much, and got way too little education for it. Student debt crippled my personal earning power. On the other hand, it enabled me to meet my wife, so I call it a wash. I personally think the cost of education is far more complex than a simple “students pay for it vs government pays for it” argument. For example, for several years, I lived in on campus housing that was absurdly extravagant and actually better than the house my wife and I own now.

That said, again, they’re giving you the option in the game. The horror. I can also set city tax rates to 29%, a rate which, in real life, would cripple most cities (particularly when combined with other taxes). It is not despicable that I have the option to do this.
 

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You hit the nail on the head there as it is a game and nobody actually pays for the education in the game.
If I offer to provide free education, the city's/my coffers pay for it and if the students pay, they can use their magical pockets of unlimited wealth.
Why then is there a happiness cost at all?

As for abhorrent, perhaps that was too harsh an adjective for the policy of 'for profit education' and so perhaps, as it is my own experience and opinion, I should have used despicable instead.
Did you, may I ask, receive a full education that you had to pay for? And if you did, what was it like to live with student loan debt?
I did and personally, I despised it and abhorred it.

What I'm quite surprised about though is that CO would provide this in their game. I expected CO, coming from Finland, a country whose quality of education, regarded as second to none in the world and has a policy of free education for all and at every level, would show more favour in a free education model.
oh ffs it's a game
 

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You hit the nail on the head there as it is a game and nobody actually pays for the education in the game.
If I offer to provide free education, the city's/my coffers pay for it and if the students pay, they can use their magical pockets of unlimited wealth.
Why then is there a happiness cost at all?

As for abhorrent, perhaps that was too harsh an adjective for the policy of 'for profit education' and so perhaps, as it is my own experience and opinion, I should have used despicable instead.
Did you, may I ask, receive a full education that you had to pay for? And if you did, what was it like to live with student loan debt?
I did and personally, I despised it and abhorred it.

What I'm quite surprised about though is that CO would provide this in their game. I expected CO, coming from Finland, a country whose quality of education, regarded as second to none in the world and has a policy of free education for all and at every level, would show more favour in a free education model.
When it comes to a game like this, the devs are going to have to avoid biases like preferences towards free education and avoid making it the only option. It's important to give the players as many avenues as possible when it comes to certain mechanics, whether you agree with those policies or not. It would not be wise to make free education the only option players can have, nor would it be wise to have for-profit education the only option players can have. It's all about decision-making, which is one of the most important tenets of a good simulation game.
 

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I expected CO, coming from Finland, a country whose quality of education, regarded as second to none in the world and has a policy of free education for all and at every level, would show more favour in a free education model.
The fact they are from Finland it doesn t mean they have to add to the game Findland typical stuff.

It's like saying Paradox should add Ikea furniture in every building of the upcoming Bloodlines 2 because they're swedish.
 

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Roslyn Peninsula: What's not to like about going to school in a tropical paradise, right?
Can confirm, having graduated from the University of Hawaii at Hilo: it's awesome. :D

This DLC definitely sounds interesting, I recently got back into playing C:S and am just about to the point where my city needs some university-level education...