I agree with everything except this statement. Even if NGNG makes the same mistakes, I would still not excuse rudeness when giving advice.
ChristopherOdd's Playthrough of Battletech
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So frustrating watching poor Odd stumble through LOL... I keep trying to grab his mouse cursor and help him out!
Oh wow. Tomorrow's the 19th. I guess the talk about April 20th being a new build was... pretty close.
The post of contention: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...gh-of-battletech.1087348/page-9#post-24107352
It was posted as a comment to one of his YouTube videos and copied here. Note the thumbs up on the comment on YouTube.
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So that explains his long drawn out speeches between every move. I was like 'damn this guy over thinks everything'...
People were too hard on him and the insults leveled at him were not cool.
New players are going to take awhile to figure things out. Be honest, the first time you played in a new ip that was complex you probably were way past 20 hours played before you werent making glaring mistkes that were obvious to you in retrospect.
New players are going to take awhile to figure things out. Be honest, the first time you played in a new ip that was complex you probably were way past 20 hours played before you werent making glaring mistkes that were obvious to you in retrospect.
Im going to slighty disagree due to mitigation and the fact that the enemy cant be counted on to split fire to your highest armored mech when your most damaged mech is standing there.
I think every mech should have decent armor so it can survive some fire, but your dedicated front line mechs should have more and be piloted in a manner that reflects they will take the brunt of the dmg. That means bulwark might be a good idea, seeking cover is a good idea etc.
I think the second line mechs should not seek to never get shot at, but they should seek to maximize fire while not exposingn themselves more than they need too.
4 max armored mechs would be 4 undergunned mechs. 2 uparmored and undergunned mechs with 2 underarmored and upgunned mechs with tactics to reflect that will be more efficient.
Gonna have to disagree. Every mech I field is fully armored. Why? Because any one of them may be called upon to take enemy fire. Not everyone has to play that way, but I always max armor all my mechs then look at what weapon/heat/ammo loadout to give them to maximize their effectiveness in the role I intend for them. No matter what though, they all get full armor.
In my opinion a mech without full armor, is just asking for a called shot with a high damage weapon (or lots of them) to take them out. One bad RNG roll and your front mechs can melt, after that the LRM boat may have to enter the fight a lot closer than originally intended.
I love it when people only half armor their legs (meaning one alpha strike with a called shot will take the leg off), or under armor one whole side of their mech because that side has no weapons or ammo (not realizing that damage transfers to the CT).
In my opinion, the amount of extra weaponry you can get from dropping armor is minimal at best. One medium laser and the heat sinks to fire it, for four tons of armor. That's a LOT of armor! If I've got a mech that is four tons of armor underweight, I am NOT going to be comfortable advancing it to the point where it can easily be fired upon, even IF it's pilot has bulwark. Yes, the brawlers should be maximally armored, but if one of them starts to take too much damage, having a well armored support line gives them somewhere to fall back to. Also well armored support means you are far less at risk in the case of enemy surprise flanking maneuvers (not likely with the current AI, but who knows) or enemy reinforcements suddenly showing up in your rear.
In the latest Odd video, his "overarmored" Vindicator support mech, which he 'was' keeping further back, got it's arm blown off, the worst damage he suffered in the scenario. Just as a forinstance.
Yeah, I aim to max my armor, then throw on a couple of heavier hitting weapons. Not a fan of the smaller toys like the SL and SRM2 or LRM5, AC2 and 5.
Typically, my weapons of choice are SRM4s and 6s, AC10s, PPCs, and LL. I use ML to round out builds and throw in a small, general purpose supporting weapon, or a bank of them for additional firepower. Armor is always my first thing maxed. I will sometimes reduce leg armor if I am going to strip anything. Leg armor is already higher then any other part of the mech, so losing maybe a ton or 2 between them isnt that bad.
I will reduce leg armor to round half tons left for weapons and heat sinks, to full tons. That is often only a single point of armor from the legs to get the half ton (table top). That's usually about it.
I remember my first 20 or so hours with divinity Original Sin, it was brutal, kept killing my own characters by accident. I can not see the more advanced tactics till you get the basic mechanics down.
You can't learn everything at once. Odd is doing fine for someone with 6-10 hours in a battletech game. learning will come in pieces and not all at once.
It was kind of funny that as he is talking about no use for light mechs, I think this is the first mission that it could have been useful to have a light to get ahead of the convoy.
did anyone noticed that when he took the firestarter out of storage, he got no weapons on it. Makes me more sure that in the final game salvaged mechs will come bare of equipment.
did anyone noticed that when he took the firestarter out of storage, he got no weapons on it. Makes me more sure that in the final game salvaged mechs will come bare of equipment.
Even in the beta putting a mech into storage removed all weapons (so you could put them on other mechs). Also, the Devs have said that when you first assemble a mech, it will not include weapons (the fact that it did in Beta was more of an unintended consequence of the Beta). It allowed people to double dip on salvage (if there was only 1 PPC in fight, you could end up with 2 (1 from salvage, then another when you pieced together a salvaged enemy mech)).
Let’s call it 5 tons and make it an LRM5. (If we’re adding an ML to a sniper or missile boat we only need 1 ton, since we probably won’t be firing our hottest weapons due to min range. )
Where do those tons come from? Well, a couple come from back armor. If my whole lance is getting flanked and my sniper is getting rear attacked, and the extra 15% weight of fire and the extra concentration of fire of 4 vs 3 hasn’t offset that advantage by the time the flanker arrived, I’ve probably already lost.
A couple tons probably also come from the arms. That’s more dangerous, but I’m betting on 10-15% more damage giving me a faster numerical advantage, and saving me some incoming damage, often enough to outweigh the rare occasions that I get serious incoming fire on a sniper.
Just an alternate perspective.
You are certainly right that an LRM 5 makes for a much better example as that would be the weapon of choice. I would note however that five tons is almost half the armor a 50 ton early LRM boat could carry. That is not a small sacrifice. In fact my own starting LRM boat 'does' make an armor sacrifice to squeeze in firepower, losing two tons of armor, and I am sorely tempted to reduce it's firepower to gain back the armor. (50 ton Centurion, jump jets for high ground/mobility, LRM 20 & 15, 4 tons ammo, 8.5 tons of armor, 2 tons shy of max.)
Actually if I reduce anything to get back the armor, it would probably be the jump jets, but I am VERY fond of jump jets.