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I wouldn't mind a restart seeing the state Sweden is in, but that is selfish of me. One question though, Sweden lacks cores for finland, why?

why would they have cores in a land where the language spoke is not even in the same family of swedish?

Also, if mats is not playing, perhaps i could take it?
 

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why would they have cores in a land where the language spoke is not even in the same family of swedish?

Also, if mats is not playing, perhaps i could take it?

Beacause they have cores there in later scenarios and Sweden for a long time saw Finland as a integral part of Sweden. It was the eastern half of Sweden for a long long time.
 

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Sweden obviously must have cores on Finland. That will pose no problem - we just need to edit the savegame.

I wouldn't mind a restart seeing the state Sweden is in, but that is selfish of me. One question though, Sweden lacks cores for finland, why?
It seems to me that Sweden is in a good state. It lost none of its starting provinces and even managed to get Ingria.

I disagree. I like the variation. And do remember that if France are annexed, all the French minors can form it again. France is not killed so easily.

As for BB, they are not dead yet. Some human or heavy AI help will get Poland and their allies good. Perhaps Austria or even Ottomans, provided that these players feel generous.
Concerning Venice, they did some fast expansion. Those bb wars will soon wear off, once the enemies get vassalized.
Ok, I agree. However a human Poland may be more practical than BB now. In its current state, it can expand effectively in Northern Germany. For Brandenburg, that will be a slow affair.

So looks like current roster will be:

England (me)
Castile (blaster/beregic)
OE (CG)
Austria (chaingun)
Venice (martin)
Sweden (monkii)
Moscow
BB/Poland
 
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Beacause they have cores there in later scenarios and Sweden for a long time saw Finland as a integral part of Sweden. It was the eastern half of Sweden for a long long time.

i know monkii, was just teasing u!

so are we playing today? what about tomorrow and christmas?
 

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Might be an hour late, depends on when my parents get here from Germany...

I'm indifferent to restarting.

an hour later to which hour? dont know the supposed start time:eek:
 

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It seems to me that Sweden is in a good state. It lost none of its starting provinces and even managed to get Ingria.
Sweden needs to get the corridor to Siberia from the start by taking Archangelsk, Karelia and the provinces behind them that are small colonies from the start. Also Sweden is -2 stab and is way over the support limit in a war it is losing. 99 attrition on the navy too. No problem for the AI but as soon as a human takes control this means problem. Not that I couldn't fix it in a year but still. Whatever. No biggie.
 

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what if there was a russia?
 

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Well, of course. But it was just a strategy from a SP-perspective. One that would be nice to try in MP. But I wasn't here when we started so I only have myself to blame.
 

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Well, of course. But it was just a strategy from a SP-perspective. One that would be nice to try in MP. But I wasn't here when we started so I only have myself to blame.

dont be so hard on yourself herr monkii!
 

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Cool. We will fill the roster if everyone shows up. Is it ok if we start like yesterday, at 19 CET/18 GMT/13 EST? Or we can extend by one hour for Chaingun.

sure by me, also nice to see Bob, the creator of that mighty france, joinning!
 

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so 1 hour ?