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Hi, I am posting this up here to get a wider response, but it is actually a request from the CORE mod.

I have been trying to correctly name and identify Communist Army military units for the 1936 scenario.

I have arrived at some slightly contradictory terms, which I would like to check against somebody who speaks Chinese:

A) I am pretty sure the the three main armies that finished the Long March at various points in time between 1935 and 1936 are correctly called "Fangmianjun" as we already do in CORE (1st, 2nd and 4th Red Army)

B) Apparently "jun" means "army" in the sense of "The Army", "joining the Army"

C) I have fairly consistenly found the term "Bing tuan" to refer both to "Army" and "Corps" as large military units. I have also found the term "Jun tuan" for "Corps"

D) For "division" I have found the term "Shi"

E) For brigade (which we do not really use) I have found "Tuan"

Can anybody help?
 

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JUN(军) > SHI(师) division > LV(旅)brigade 〉TUAN(团)regiment/corps 〉YING(营)battalion 〉LIAN(连)company
1 Jun include 3 division or 4 ..like Corps.
"joining the Army" = "Can Jun"(参军)
Bing tuan and Fangmianjun = army group . but Fangmianjun higher than Bing tuan in Command level . Fangmianjun is area army group leader.
 

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I'm following this out of sheer curiosity (with no intention of doing anything as productive as the major's work), but I have a further question, aya. If 'Jun' refers to the army as a part of a nation's armed forces- as in the 'British Army' - is there a different term that identifies an army as a formation - as in the 'Eighth Army'?
 

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JUN(军) > SHI(师) division > LV(旅)brigade 〉TUAN(团)regiment/corps 〉YING(营)battalion 〉LIAN(连)company
1 Jun include 3 division or 4 ..like Corps.
"joining the Army" = "Can Jun"(参军)
Bing tuan and Fangmianjun = army group . but Fangmianjun higher than Bing tuan in Command level . Fangmianjun is area army group leader.

Sorry for abandoning my own thread ....
Thanks, this is very helpful!
 

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In WW2 , Chinese military strength weak, so usual use one "Jun"(include 3 divisions or 4,even 1 division) to accomplish military tasks like one European division. Sad China in WW2.


My english is bad, so sometimes unable to express what I mean.