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I took a look through the events folder and didn't see anything regarding a Chinese surrender to Japan (although I did see Japan surrenders to China) with the option of becoming a puppet or annexed outright, along with the other minor Chinese states (GClique, Shanxi, XSM ...). I'm curious as to why this was changed since it made the war much more tolerable knowing that there was an end in sight which didn't require ever (stinking!) VP province. Was the decision to not include based on a historical basis (China would never surrender in totality) vs. a gaming aid for Japans player?

If I understand the route correctly, Japan can either DoW Nationalist China dissent free during the GClique/NatChi war or during the Marco Polo Bridge incident. The option I chose was the former, and don't know what would've happened if I waited until '37 Marco Polo. I'm curious though if in either case I would have to make multiple DoW for Shanxi, Yunnan, et al and require to suffer a dissent hit each time or if I very much did stray off the proper historical track which would've allowed me to be at war with all of China without multiple dissent hits?
 

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It appears that I've either missed the relevant events in the file or looked at the wrong file. Trudging up a bit further into the heartland I saw that ComChi and Natchi had an event where they made peace (despite them not being at war at the time) and, unusually, Sinkiang became NatChis puppet. Hopefully GClique and Shanxi will soon join too.
 

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For closure, I did indeed find out that there are no quick 'n easy China Surrender events. I'm not sure if it happens always in this exact order, but in my case:

  • Japan DOWs NatChi, whose allied with XSM
  • NatChi puppets Sinkiang leaving it a single province state
  • Shanxi, Yunnan and ComChi join the fight (once Guangi Clique also joined, but not in the reload). EVentually they do get in the fight though, whether through DOW or as annexed NatChi territory.
  • Significant progress against either Shanxi, Yunnan, Guangi Clique, or ComChi results in outright annexation. Only XSM seems to stay free from this plague.

In short, use tons of Mountaineers when you hit XSM and Sinkiang! They take a little less than a month to move in the 10% infra mountain provs. Infantry takes about twice as long.