Chill 4 - The return of the exiled

[Aladar]

Well let's not complain about our welfare systems, eventhou i don't intend to use them myself.

Well not quite true, back in highschool i got 130 euro each month, which covered the overdraw on my bankaccount (for 8 months). And i did get 5 weeks pay after i quit the military, but that was from the unemployment thing, and it just covered the money i had paid into it.

Anyway Absolut, once you get a real job you'll find our that wages in RL are somewhat higher than what the welfare system pays you, even after our extremely high taxes (which pays for the welfare system). Atleast my paycheck is a lot better than that, so i get by a lot of beer for it, which ofcourse is what it all comes down to in the end. How many cases of Fransikaner Weisbeer can you wages buy

But back to the game. Guess it was an honest mistake, so just don't repeat it.

 

[Aladar]

Oh, see how the social security system of our ruling class the last 70 years, the Socialdemocrats, have corrupted the mind of the youth.

They now see no reason to work, since if they do not, then the state provides for them.

Who will pay my pension when I turn 65? Obviously not my dear Absolut

Ohh and who is corrupted here dear Daniel. You should save up money while you have an income, instead of sucking on the welcomesystem when you turn 65. It's not like i expect to get anything when i turn 65, so i'm saving up the money myself.

Typical you older folks, "we've worked all our life and now it's our turn to suck on the system". We've paid off on the debt for making the welfare system ever since, and we've only just manage to pay if off now. Atleast Denmark has, Sweden is probally in debt still since you always seem to choose the Socialdemokrats.

 

[Sir Dud]

Bah stop complaining you Scandinavians ^^, come to Britain and see how generous our social security system is . Argh! You even get paid to go to school...Here you get like the equivalent of 350DKKr a month and only if your family income is so bad that it is surprising you aint starved to death (ok an exaggeration but you get the gist ). For most (well depending where about in the Uk you are really) you gotta PAY yourself to go on to further education . Well at least I dont have to pay 60% taxes .

 

[unmerged(49182)]

Well let's not complain about our welfare systems, eventhou i don't intend to use them myself.

Well not quite true, back in highschool i got 130 euro each month, which covered the overdraw on my bankaccount (for 8 months). And i did get 5 weeks pay after i quit the military, but that was from the unemployment thing, and it just covered the money i had paid into it.

Anyway Absolut, once you get a real job you'll find our that wages in RL are somewhat higher than what the welfare system pays you, even after our extremely high taxes (which pays for the welfare system). Atleast my paycheck is a lot better than that, so i get by a lot of beer for it, which ofcourse is what it all comes down to in the end. How many cases of Fransikaner Weisbeer can you wages buy

But back to the game. Guess it was an honest mistake, so just don't repeat it.

But lets look at it this way:

I get 1000SEK each month, I can use every single crown of that, I have no expenses what so ever, such as rent and so on, I of course have to buy clothes and such but that doesnt happen so often.
You get a higher salary but you first have to pay 30% taxes (I think), then you have to pay for car (if you have one), house/apartment, food, internet and all that, I get that for free.

It evens out, I also dont have to stress about being able to pay my expenses so I am more healthy than you all are.

And the mistake wont happen again, its 60 years right?

 

[unmerged(36986)]

You get a higher salary but you first have to pay 30% taxes (I think)...

Just 30 %? Think again......

 

[Aladar]

I think the 30% is in England.

For every crone i make i pay about 51% in taxes. But that's not enough ofcourse, so when i bought my motorcycle a few years back, i have to paid it 3 times.

Price + 180% registrationtax + 25% (not sure what moms is in English)

So if you buy a car in Denmark that from the factory cost 50.000 DKK, you have to pay 175.000 DKK after taxes.

 

[unmerged(6147)]

We must solve the save problem.

Since Bob is prolly a little tired of this an alternative is that someone takes it upon his shoulders to make the edits. But if so this person needs to know exactly what to do.

If this is decided upon then some (Bob I suppose) compiles all that info into one post.

I can do the dits this evening or tomorrow evening. Other voluntaries are wellcome as well.

We can not let this hot potato just lie there. We must have a working save.

Take command Aladar!

 

[Aladar]

In that case send all the info to Daniel so he can try it out. Or send him the save an see if you can figure out the error, since you already made the edits.

Nothing in your defense Daniel? Guess i was right about you sucking on the system

 

[unmerged(49182)]

Just 30 %? Think again......

You see, I dont have to know/care about those things.

I could help you with the edits, if someone show me how.

 

[unmerged(36826)]

Income tax in England is progressive, so if you are lazy and earn below £28,000 I think it is 30%, below £40,000 it is 40% and above that is 50%.

And yes poor children get paid to stay in school when they are 17-18.

And people are getting too old and refuse to work, I say put them all down the coal mines until they expire due to exhaustion

There are a lot of edits, it would probably be easier to see what is wrong with the save file first.

 

[unmerged(49182)]

I agree with you there Bob, lets put everyone above 35 in coal mines.

 

[unmerged(6147)]

please send the save Bob. I am at home now.

 

[unmerged(6147)]

my icq broke down during the transmission and I had to reboot. Pls send it again, or someone else if you have the save.

 

[unmerged(38752)]

I think the problem with your save was that there was a merchant from a deleted nation still active, due to arrive in a CoT at march 30. That crashed it.

 

[unmerged(6147)]

ah yes, there were nations from the lithuanian area deleted. Good suggestion Ozzeh

 

[unmerged(36826)]

Well solved the problem, it was something to do with Brittany and Naples's province transfer. Apart from that all the edits should be in apart from cores which I have no clue what is going on with.

About Brittany's buying, I have given the money to Naples but not the provinces, so you'll have to do that via fake war ingame.

And I think I can claim Judea and Syria

 

[bluelotus]

Can I get cores for those provinces, and lets say after the session we will edit the cores out and I can't claim cores there for 100 years instead of 60? Or if we play more the 40 years maybe after 120? It would solve the problem in game very quickly without any fight o

 

[unmerged(36986)]

Well solved the problem, it was something to do with Brittany and Naples's province transfer. Apart from that all the edits should be in apart from cores which I have no clue what is going on with.

Nice work Bob! Now, go ahead and roll some nice leaders for GH!

 

[unmerged(36826)]

Can I get cores for those provinces, and lets say after the session we will edit the cores out and I can't claim cores there for 100 years instead of 60? Or if we play more the 40 years maybe after 120? It would solve the problem in game very quickly without any fight o

uhhhh no

You can do a little bit of fighting at least

 

[bluelotus]

Yeah setting up four 5k army and put them into that four provinces is a really good fight