Chill 3 - AoI 1337

[ForzaA]

Tonio like Enigma has 3 names: Anton, Tonio and Tonioz.

No one knows his real name

Some do

Oh and have fun you all, too bad I can't participate

 

[ForzaA]

Maybe when your university colleges allow it, you can sometime come sub or take over a country?

that's a rather big if, don't see it happening for atleast a few months

 

[ForzaA]

What time is that EST?

1900 CET is (should be) 1300 EST; ie. in one hour.

 

[ForzaA]

is "deus ex machina" o

i ve studied latin for 5 years :wacko:

Technically, both are right, since word order doesn't matter; but the usual way of saying is of course, as you say

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And Aladar, be glad that I'm not your editor anymore, because I would have squarely refused to do the edit

And if you had bother to read Holistic God's post, you would've seen that it was NOT a rant/whine, which, I must say, wouldn't even have been unreasonable in this case . Rather, it was an excellent post, written with logic rather than emotion, and a clear example of why you shouldn't go tossing out edits like that.

Also, wouldn't you think that if "France has clearly been stripped too much", that would have been the FIRST thing you would've hear from Norre?

Now, you might, even after discussing this, come to the same conclusion as to what edits are needed (if any) - but then there will atleast be a consensus about it, rather than a big fight.
As a GM, it is your responsibility not only to ensure that the GAME flows well, but ALSO that everyone can understand the decisions taken, and atleast live with them.
That's how a democracy works, you don't only need to take decisions that are good for the country(game), you also need to make (enough) people understand that it is indeed the best (or a good enough) solution. Otherwise, taxes would've long disappeared in all democracies.

 

[ForzaA]

Province IDs are not the problem. The problem is that governors have to be added to the city part of the save, which is in the part of the country that owns the province. If I just search for the province ID, I get results for lots of other numbers also (treasury, infla, relations, etc. etc. etc.) so it takes a long time. The fastest way to go it to check what countries are in an area and then just search for those, and then edit governors to all their cities. Which is what I did for the Timurids.

hint: capital names work GREAT to find a country (better than the tag in any case)

...but you probably already knew that.

 

[ForzaA]

No sorry, I have decided to do something about my beer belly at mondays. That means you can find me playing football, basketball or volleyball at those times

Sports are BAD for beer bellies....

....ever noticed the third half?

Usually much more activity, and a lot of injury time

 

[ForzaA]

from what I read, Frengland followed the spirit of the rule, rather than the letter.


Which should be applauded

The rule, as I have always seen it used, was meant to avoid that a human overlord had to take stabhits/BB hits or the like to defend their vassals.
If the vassal is allied, there's no problem there o



...and I think we can safely assume that if Frengland had dowed the overlord, he would THEN have to dow the vassal aswell, since the overlord wouldn't invite the vassal...

[size=+2]Flame on![/size]

 

[ForzaA]

I looked in rules. This is excerpt from rules;

"If you want to dow a vassal nation always dow the overlord."

HoG didn't break rules. I thought rules state something else; "If you want to dow a vassal nation always dow the overlord first." Since first is not in the end of original rule HoG haven't broke any rule. Therefore I suggest adding 'first' to the end of that rule NOW. Other than that I agree with other players and I don't think Aladar was an 'asshole' nor that HoG should use such words to describe behaviour of the GM's. From what I have seen Aladar never used such words so he really haven't deserved it.

Over and out.

if you're going to argue semantics anyway..

I'd suggest removing the "want to" (and replace it with "plan to" or somesuch)
..otherwise someone IS eventually going to argue that he didn't in fact WANT to dow the vassal, but did so out of convenience

 

[ForzaA]

I'll be an ass again and get into the brawl


for the rule itself.

"If a player dows an AI-vasal of another player, the first player (the agressor) must ensure that the other player (the defender and overlord) *can* fight in the war as a defender, and at no cost in stab."

I think that covers the whole situation, and is the closest I can come to what I have understood the spirit of the rule to be.


And on a more general note, Aladar, get a co-GM who can decide on issues where you are directly involved (and who is not involved in that situation himself), you need it, IMNSHO.
Perhaps Russia has no quarrels with either Spain or Frengland?

 

[ForzaA]

Well Russia are cool,

firstly, it's "is"

...and secondly, what'd you expect with all that snow?

 

[ForzaA]

This Russia can be record breaking one and I belive that, after record breaking Spain with 1900 monthly, Ozzeh would like to see Forzaa's record broken

I have a record?





...don't mind me, please do restart if that's what you want