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[Dago]

about OE,this is what happened yesterday

the vnetter Tica dowed immediately austria,inviting me and sweden
but no any battle happened,they wp (as i) very soon
after this,the guy dowed moldava (my vassall) making me disonore and lose 1 stab : then,i lost sweden as alli (that dowed me later while i was still in war vs russians)
so i dowed tica,for protect moldava : after have kicked his ass a bit,he left and AI ended the war (vs me and vs moldava)
i peaced OE (even coz was the only way for make them peace with moldava,with new rules upon vassalls) and moldava was smashed
all this while i was in war vs russia : it sucked a bit

i d like have buyak edited back at moldava,and ripristinating old friendship with the sultan

AI did 2 wars vs persia and mugals,ended as daniel said

 

[Dago]

1. Poland/OE i recon you can solve the Moldavia matter yourself.

i hope ,as i said,that zag accepts to give them back at my vassall

2. Are we taking Poland down from 1,0 to 0,5 value concerning alliance.

i think is rather fair,and it should been done some time ago,imho

The alliance systems seems to be working well, no Uber alliances has been formed to gangbang anyone.

system is working well.but obviously it dont prevent the gangs (and yesterday i was ganged)

Wonder what the lastet alliance, RUS/POL, is up to.

i ve some ideas
btw,about sweden,i wanna back just my COT
but i wont ask help at russia,if this is what wondered u

 

[Aladar]

The question is: are they planning more evil expansionist rapes like the one SPA (and AUS) was the victim of, or are they just like any common criminal afraid that they might get caught by the police and therefore tries to create an impregnable armor?

Just to make it clear, this was the 1st ever attack from France/Venice/NL on Spain/Austria, whom has attacked us 3 times in the past.

system is working well.but obviously it dont prevent the gangs (and yesterday i was ganged)

Perhaps you should remember your gangbang on BB.

 

[unmerged(6147)]

I believe dago should have some kind of real compensation, money and/or deflation, for what this tiCa guy did. Had OE been AI they would probably not have DOWed Poland. Now we let this random vnetter into the game and one of us, dago, suffered economically from that (besides the vassal issue) since he had to do war, which costs money, in lost soldiers and extra maintenance costs (leaving looting aside since that is a two-edged sword, you can be plus on looting)

 

[ForzaA]

Eh, if I first DA Scotland all those provinces would be mine. Then at some later point this event will fire and since I then own those provinces they change culture.

Or do I misunderstand something?

... just to be sure, are we talking about this event:

#The Act of Union#
event = {

	id = 3037
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			vassal = { country = ENG country = SCO }
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 238 data = -1 }
				owned = { province = 239 data = -1 }
				NOT = { exists = SCO }
			}
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME3037"
	desc = "EVENTHIST3037"
	style = 4

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1700 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1820 }

	action_a ={			#We are Great Britain#
		name = "ACTIONNAME3037A"
		command = { type = flag which = 6 }
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 1 }
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = addcore which = 236 }
		command = { type = addcore which = 237 }
		command = { type = addcore which = 238 }
		command = { type = addcore which = 239 }
		command = { type = provinceculture   which = 237 value = anglosaxon }
		command = { type = provinceculture   which = 238 value = anglosaxon }
		command = { type = provinceculture   which = 239 value = anglosaxon }
		}
}

If so, that CAN AND WILL happen (and in fact, has happened) if SCO is just a vasal, thus "robbing" you of your cultural conversions.


----
and if you had diploannexed SCO before this event, you would indeed have gotten it, and get the cultural conversions.

 

[Dago]

I believe dago should have some kind of real compensation, money and/or deflation, for what this tiCa guy did. Had OE been AI they would probably not have DOWed Poland. Now we let this random vnetter into the game and one of us, dago, suffered economically from that (besides the vassal issue) since he had to do war, which costs money, in lost soldiers and extra maintenance costs (leaving looting aside since that is a two-edged sword, you can be plus on looting)

the most annoying thing was that i was forced to fight on 2 fronts (oe and russia)
btw,in peace i got 400 ducats by AI,and i consider it a reasonable compensation (even if,in terms of gold and troops i ve surely lost more)

 

[Dago]

Perhaps you should remember your gangbang on BB.

bb situation was bad,but wasnt really a gang
me and sweden were forced to fight on 2 fronts,anyway,and russia is by far the most powerful land-country in the game wiht an excellent income

 

[unmerged(45041)]

Dago, offcourse u get Moldovia back.

 

[Dago]

Dago, offcourse u get Moldovia back.

thx friend i ll give id of prov at Forzaa

btw,these are my personal league at year 1713

#1 : Neatherland : amazing job (that i realized just seeing the last stats).Number 1 in income,leading by far all techs (military and economicals).
The only Lord of the seas,for now.Its only problem is MP,but with France as ally and with 41 LT very near (for a massive building of CC),NL can solve also this matter

#2 : Russia : nothing,if not a large coalition,can defeat them.Very good income.Its only problem could be the LT ,and its largeness dont help

#3 : Portugal : yeah,trust me.Their income isnt impressive,but they are the only one that can try stop NL,on seas.And who control the seas,after 1700,probably has the best chances for win the game

#4 : England : very nice income (near at NL),but its lag in military techs but mostly in NT (26 vs 37) is a very big problem.France and NL could invade england and defeat it in few months (so portugal,alli of england,is so much important)

#5 : France : i m pretty sure they have builded some troops before end the game,so they surely have a better MP.They got the CRT (35 LT),decent income and alli of NL : not many can threaten them

#6 : Venice : rather good job,Aladar.Nice income,nice country.But ur NT (22! ) dont make it become excellent

#7 : Spain : good played in first part of game,but now seems suffering a bit.Low centralization/innovative and its bad lag in military techs is the weak point,but have a good income that can help in future

#8 : Austria : no ports,but a nice shape in europe.Good MP,possible funds by their friend/ally Spain ; LandTech alligned at all (apart the 2 monsters)

#9 : Oe : with LT fixed a bit,they wont be able to win the game,but i think they will get fun and maybe be important for the sort of the game,in some way

#10 : Sweden : anyway the #3 in NT (28),good DP sliders.Also them can make some interesting things in this last century

#11 : Poland : the power of the past is just written in history books

 

[unmerged(38752)]

I think Venice should be above me. I get a lot of help from historical set-up, events and leaders, while Aladar has had to build most of his empire from scratch. Honestly, have you ever seen a Venice as large as this one?

 

[Dago]

I think Venice should be above me. I get a lot of help from historical set-up, events and leaders, while Aladar has had to build most of his empire from scratch. Honestly, have you ever seen a Venice as large as this one?

u right,but their 22 in naval tech,for venice,is very low
about techs,france has 35/23 and venice 28/22
apart this,as i said,the job of Aladar would be excellent,if not for this only but critical matter
and then,my personal league is at this current year : if venice recover all its lag in such tech,obviosly many things can change

 

[unmerged(38752)]

Well, if you look at tech then you're right. Aladar also lags in trade and infra tech, he has trade 7 and infra 5 compared to my 9/9. But then again, I am just a hyperteching bastard Having virtually no colonies and very rich home provinces, as well as most manus in the game, makes teching just too easy. But I really think you shouldn't look too much at tech, when you look at achievement then Aladar should surely be above me.

 

[Dago]

Well, if you look at tech then you're right. Aladar also lags in trade and infra tech, he has trade 7 and infra 5 compared to my 9/9. But then again, I am just a hyperteching bastard Having virtually no colonies and very rich home provinces, as well as most manus in the game, makes teching just too easy. But I really think you shouldn't look too much at tech, when you look at achievement then Aladar should surely be above me.

i look at all the things : income,MP,techs,achievement and alliances
achievement of venice are very very nice,and it s one of best venice i ever seen : but u need consider that venice can be defeated by every fleet of every nation,or almost
and it s a very critical lack for venice,in MP

 

[bluelotus]

Well yes Portugal don't have an impressive economy, and after I take Porto from L. Ganja there is a ~ -8.0% economical loss.. that is a signal of the skill difference between me and Ganja, I think o

 

[Dago]

Well yes Portugal don't have an impressive economy, and after I take Porto from L. Ganja there is a ~ -8.0% economical loss.. that is a signal of the skill difference between me and Ganja, I think o

believe me : ur portugal is more important that everybody can think,indeed
NL-France together (and with also a very good venice supporting) can easily do everything they want
invade england,spain,austria all together (at current stats)
and ur fleet will be very important,in such case
u can save the entire balance,with a bit luck and support of others allies fleets

 

[unmerged(36826)]

#7 : Spain : good played in first part of game,but now seems suffering a bit.Low centralization/innovative and its bad lag in military techs is the weak point,but have a good income that can help in future

Aww that is mean, I have only played 2 sessions and then get attacked as soon as I get back and somehow have a smaller merchant presence despite telling Captain Panda to do anything, inflate like hell to get me more trade income, then I had to go afk (bad timing by me but eh) I also blame uhm, uhm I blame ozzeh, because he is playing France hate him so much

 

[unmerged(38752)]

You always blame me don't ya Bob And be glad it's me in France, and not Pibe or something...

 

[unmerged(6147)]

Aww that is mean, I have only played 2 sessions and then get attacked as soon as I get back and somehow have a smaller merchant presence despite telling Captain Panda to do anything, inflate like hell to get me more trade income, then I had to go afk (bad timing by me but eh) I also blame uhm, uhm I blame ozzeh, because he is playing France hate him so much

Telling Captain Panda to trade may be like talking to a wall...

 

[Dago]

Aww that is mean, I have only played 2 sessions and then get attacked as soon as I get back and somehow have a smaller merchant presence despite telling Captain Panda to do anything, inflate like hell to get me more trade income, then I had to go afk (bad timing by me but eh) I also blame uhm, uhm I blame ozzeh, because he is playing France hate him so much

mine wasnt a critics at you,meh.Guys,u get too much offended,lolz
spain decline is rather normal,in late èra : and i think spain is lagging bad in techs,and his largeness and DP wont help much
Spain owns only 2 COT (while all other colonials/naval owns 5 for each one)
but i ve seen games that totally change in 1 session,or in 2
so dont worry

and mine was just a personal thought : i m not who decide who ll win,and who is doing well or bad
i said just my personal thoughts

 

[unmerged(38752)]

Telling Captain Panda to trade may be like talking to a wall...

Couldn't agree more