My compliments to the chef! That really was a nice, "chill" session. 
Looking forward to more of the same.
Looking forward to more of the same.
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Nice session, Stable and quick rehosts, as required
VD has sadly dropped a point, to Sub-Perm; Because of latecoming and being afk during rehost.
Don't worry, you'll get back up if you are in time next time.
VD has sadly dropped a point, to Sub-Perm; Because of latecoming and being afk during rehost.
Don't worry, you'll get back up if you are in time next time.
Adam Breit said:Nice session, Stable and quick rehosts, as required
VD has sadly dropped a point, to Sub-Perm; Because of latecoming and being afk during rehost.
Don't worry, you'll get back up if you are in time next time.
Sorry, Sorry... I just couldn't different between what cet represents in my time zone.
i noticed Juv gave autosave.eug, which doesn`t include vassalization of Navarra by Spain. Though Juv perhaps should have second save with this one.
Interesting session-
Got dumped right into a war with France, killed Richemont (~40k Cav vs ~12k Cav on plains) and signed a lenient peacedeal (Caux and Champagne).
Then France made a surprising move which eventually led to a 7 province Brittany
then a few matters that need some attention IMHO.
1) the situation in France; it might be an idea to make BRI the new France (what to do to the old France I do not know) or some alternative (a 4 prov France and a 7 prov AI Brittany next to it might lead to a few painful incidents )
2) Dutch Revolts- despite success in France, it would, IMHO be too much damage to BUR to let her suffer through the Dutch revolts (8 out of 11 cores at ~20 RR)
3) Playing- I'd love to join this game as perm (for BUR, obviously), and I *think* I can play for atleast 4 more weeks, after that I do not know (unknown schedule for now)
Got dumped right into a war with France, killed Richemont (~40k Cav vs ~12k Cav on plains) and signed a lenient peacedeal (Caux and Champagne).
Then France made a surprising move
which eventually led to a 7 province Brittany then a few matters that need some attention IMHO.
1) the situation in France; it might be an idea to make BRI the new France (what to do to the old France I do not know) or some alternative (a 4 prov France and a 7 prov AI Brittany next to it might lead to a few painful incidents
)2) Dutch Revolts- despite success in France, it would, IMHO be too much damage to BUR to let her suffer through the Dutch revolts (8 out of 11 cores at ~20 RR)
3) Playing- I'd love to join this game as perm (for BUR, obviously
), and I *think* I can play for atleast 4 more weeks, after that I do not know (unknown schedule for now)
HYW and lowtech battles are always risky very much because of low level of reserves in case of major lose. So leaving 22K in Paris and fighting, while 41K of Burgundian were invaded, was the best option for France to lose the war.
Or we could unite all of the French duchies into France once again (including Brittany) but that might ruin? the game.
Adam Breit said:
Well, IMNSHO that would not be really fair to Burgundy, who valiantly [
]defended her ally (Brittany).
I crashed when saving the 2 jan so I gave out the autosave from 1 jan.
I started the game in SP as England and saved to be on the safe side.
England had a quite session, vassalizing Scotland and nothing else. With no CBs and few natural enemies this felt as the natural thing to do.
England is watching the continent to preserve the balance there and we notice with satisfaction that Burgundy hasn't taken further advantage of France's weak position. But France is increasing it's tech in a very rapidly so we might not have seen the last of this.
I started the game in SP as England and saved to be on the safe side.
England had a quite session, vassalizing Scotland and nothing else. With no CBs and few natural enemies this felt as the natural thing to do.
England is watching the continent to preserve the balance there and we notice with satisfaction that Burgundy hasn't taken further advantage of France's weak position. But France is increasing it's tech in a very rapidly so we might not have seen the last of this.
Spain`s Izabella is not happy at all with Venice stealing Spanish cores - while brave Castilian forces killed Aragon`s ones, the Doge used it`s superiority at sea for safe grabbing of three provinces.
With the help of God and Ferdinand, Spain hopes for some fair in this world. We like that Sultan supports Spanish presence in Sicily.
With the help of God and Ferdinand, Spain hopes for some fair in this world. We like that Sultan supports Spanish presence in Sicily.
juv95hrn said:
Then i please ask for kind edit - Navarra is becoming Spanish vassal.
just tossing in a suggestion: how about "all" the French duchies (excluding Lorraine, Strassbourg, Savoy) join "the French"(BUR and FRA) with FRA getting the SW and BUR getting the NE.
(with some French provinces surrendered to BUR) - making FRA viable is fine, but eh, not *too* viable (not to mention losing a 7prov ally is not nice )
That is ofcourse provided that Barnius wants a change..
(with some French provinces surrendered to BUR) - making FRA viable is fine, but eh, not *too* viable (not to mention losing a 7prov ally is not nice
)That is ofcourse provided that Barnius wants a change..
That was definitelly two and a half interested decades .
France was hurt badly and is looking for a strong ally that can help her survive those turbulent years.
No need for some serious history rewriting (OOC: editing), weak and poor Kingdom of France only needs peace to consolidate. Sadly, King of France just learned his expectations to inherit Brittany were futile. Made so by Burgundy! (OOC: event connected with the Burgundian one) But again, King of France realises he must be objective and honour the current status of powers. France accepts dutchy of Brittany and dutchy of Burgundy as states equal to Kingdom of France. Hopefully there is enough room for all of us.
Hopefully some other powers will make enough room for all of us. Because let's face it, not only France was stripped of her rightful inheritance... Oh, but what am I talking again? No, no, peace in French lands!
.France was hurt badly and is looking for a strong ally that can help her survive those turbulent years.
No need for some serious history rewriting (OOC: editing), weak and poor Kingdom of France only needs peace to consolidate. Sadly, King of France just learned his expectations to inherit Brittany were futile. Made so by Burgundy! (OOC: event connected with the Burgundian one) But again, King of France realises he must be objective and honour the current status of powers. France accepts dutchy of Brittany and dutchy of Burgundy as states equal to Kingdom of France. Hopefully there is enough room for all of us.
Hopefully some other powers will make enough room for all of us. Because let's face it, not only France was stripped of her rightful inheritance... Oh, but what am I talking again? No, no, peace in French lands!
ForzaA said:just tossing in a suggestion: how about "all" the French duchies (excluding Lorraine, Strassbourg, Savoy) join "the French"(BUR and FRA) with FRA getting the SW and BUR getting the NE.
(with some French provinces surrendered to BUR) - making FRA viable is fine, but eh, not *too* viable (not to mention losing a 7prov ally is not nice
That is ofcourse provided that Barnius wants a change..
Let's try it with as little editing as possible. If Burgudy accepts to remain where she is, leaving the rest of French lands to Kingdom of France to consolidate it in time, France will leave the issue of Paris beeing surrounded by Burgundy. Perhaps Burgundy could only allow MA...
If not, if Burgundy still has territorial pretensions, than France hopes someone will intervene against vile Burgundy.
The only thing that is annoying and I would like edited is some kind of a peace between Holstein and the most drearful French vassal (former and hopefully future) Burbonais. Burbonais is constantly offering France money, Edit it to Holstein and end this war. Than Burbonais will once again be French vassal.
Annoying session for sweden which had to stay vassal a denmark for 20 years because of starting set up
So, obviously, weak economy but also surprisingly crappy troops...
A war for nothing against muscowy, and another one going on against BB that seems to be as useless as the russian one was
At least sweden broke the vassalization to denmark although staying allied with them
So, obviously, weak economy but also surprisingly crappy troops...
A war for nothing against muscowy, and another one going on against BB that seems to be as useless as the russian one was
At least sweden broke the vassalization to denmark although staying allied with them
Burgundian future
Forzaa, it would be great if you could stay as permanent. But do you really want to play Burgundy? Wouldn't Holland be better, with all those leaders and events? I always thought Burgundy should somehow evolve into Holland.
Although, my idea was Burgundy slowly leaving France, not annexing it .
Forzaa, it would be great if you could stay as permanent. But do you really want to play Burgundy? Wouldn't Holland be better, with all those leaders and events? I always thought Burgundy should somehow evolve into Holland.
Although, my idea was Burgundy slowly leaving France, not annexing it
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Burgundy is actually the strongest military land power in Europe at the moment.
It will be interesting to see what happens with this situation.
It will be interesting to see what happens with this situation.
His Highness the Archduke would like to point out, deferentially, of course, that the limitation placed upon the central powers by the more external brethren of Europe that there be no annexation within the main boundaries of the Holy Roman Empire has left the selfsame central powers at a disadvantage compared to those of our brethren with more, shall we say, external targets. Vassal incomes are not the same, steady flow of money that census taxes, tolls and regular taxation bring. Rest assured, there will be a time when these wholly arbitrary and totally unfair restrictions upon our majes..., er, that is ... well, yes, I do claim it, majesty shall be rectified, remembered, and revenged.
As for the mess that is France, well, let me just say that the Maid must be quite restless in the grave...
("What was that? The Brittanian ambassador? Um, just a moment, we'll be done here shortly... )
As for the mess that is France, well, let me just say that the Maid must be quite restless in the grave...
("What was that? The Brittanian ambassador? Um, just a moment, we'll be done here shortly... )