Children of the Fatherland: MP conversion game
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Not in Epirus they aren't. Start with 22k of mine, 20k of yours; end with my 20k versus your running-away 12k.
Midsession update: Massive war in the Middle East! Russia, the Caliphate, al-Andalus, and Croatia against Rome and Persia. Somewhat outnumbered! But we are defending ourselves with spirit. Corfu is returned to Roman rule!
Midsession update: Massive war in the Middle East! Russia, the Caliphate, al-Andalus, and Croatia against Rome and Persia. Somewhat outnumbered! But we are defending ourselves with spirit. Corfu is returned to Roman rule!
What we haven't got in numbers we more than make up for in spirit and righteousness!
That's the first battle the grannies have lost. Merely a minor set-back in the grand scheme of the war.
At the current speed don´t worry, east rome will last until mid 2014 even if it gets annexed in this very war
what you havn't got in numbers you make up for in gamebugs ruining my armies :[
Cheer up, the army defending Constantinople itself, undefeated in a dozen hard-fought battles against Russian, Andalusian, and Croatian alike, disappeared for the same cause. 20k veterans, who had stood undaunted against the charge of three times their number of screaming Cossacks - gone in an instant.
Yes, and the first battle they fought against my troops! Apart from Epirus, you have been skulking about the edges of the theatre, starting a siege here and ambushing a vassal there. In the first clash of actual armies, boom.
I lost around 50.000 men in various armies around Syria! :[ Clearly Byzanto-Persian necromancing byreaucrat are behind this!
Or to put it in other words, the second we have enoug troops concentrated to assault you the game crashes and we get morale-bugged
I see the cocky Komnenid forgets the Great Battle of Byzantion! Where 40,000 Greeks assaulted 20,000 brave Grannies and lost terribly!
Since Knautschling AARs are no more for the time being, here´s a mini-update for today´s session from Denmark´s point of view:
- Northern Ireland is handed over to Loire to further strengthen De Flandre-Knautschling friendship
- A bugfix is applied to the game that eliminates the asymmetrical elements in the religious mechanics disfavouring catholics.
Furthermore countries that started catholic but got converted to orthodox were converted back on request. Yay !
- Huge war between Byzantion+Persia versus Russia+Egypt+Croatia+Iberia+Finland forces game speed to minimum setting.
- My "Anti-god-king" lives on but what would have seemed like a huge civil war with vassals breaking free left and right on normal speed felt as if nothing happened whatsoever.
- Seconds before the session ends a competent king inherits. Yay ! Denmark is back in business.
- Northern Ireland is handed over to Loire to further strengthen De Flandre-Knautschling friendship
- A bugfix is applied to the game that eliminates the asymmetrical elements in the religious mechanics disfavouring catholics.
Furthermore countries that started catholic but got converted to orthodox were converted back on request. Yay !
- Huge war between Byzantion+Persia versus Russia+Egypt+Croatia+Iberia+Finland forces game speed to minimum setting.
- My "Anti-god-king" lives on but what would have seemed like a huge civil war with vassals breaking free left and right on normal speed felt as if nothing happened whatsoever.
- Seconds before the session ends a competent king inherits. Yay ! Denmark is back in business.
To get the facts straight; Persia and Byzantion assaulted The Caliphate, declaring that it was a "defensive" war as armies flooded across the Syrian border, (also: freedom slavery, ignorance strenth) In support Russia and Croatia declared war on Persia and Byz in accordance to our defencive pact against the two belligerent powers, Finland and Al-Andalus declared in support of their allies but due to distance and lack of troops they could not fully partake in the war (tho the men they sent were valiant and steadfast). Caliphate troops are holding the important parts of Syria/Jerusalem, tho much of the sand has been lost. Throughout the later stages of the war The Caliphate was plagued by dissapearing armies and moralebugs, making our defence difficult.
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Here is the preprepared demands the defending powers laid out in the event that one of us was assaulted by Persia/Byzantion
Causus Belli and Demands of Restoration and Reparation in the Oriental War
Whereas;
First: The Oriental Alliance (KoM,Foels) have Championed wars and aggression against the Aggrieved Powers (vR,OY,Frosty) unrightfully taking from them lands, titles and gold.
Second: The OA have assisted other powers in the same.
Third: The OA have funded Piracy around Crete, not only against common trade but also against the tribute ships between the lords of al-Andalus and All the Russias. Ships bearing the very coat of arms of the Sovereign Sultan of al-Andalus and carrying gifts of peace!
Fourth: The OA have funded subversion amongst the Cossacks and other peoples among the Rus, goading them to abandon loyalty to their rightful liege lord the Tsar and create petty states for themselves.
Fifth: The OA have through nefarious schemes convinced the Polacks to commit acts "beyond the pale of civilised law" forcing the Croats and Rus to move in and take protectorship over the outlaw nation to restore law and order, at significant cost and burdensome reaction from church and foreign diplomats.
the Aggrieved Powers, deeming the OA chiefly responsible for these aggressions and fiendish acts now demand reparations and compensations equal to the pain and loss suffered;
First: The OA shall restore any and all lands taken from the AP in the last wars (in the case of Dyrrachion the Komnenids shall instead restore the remaining parts of Thrace, which are of equal wealth in basetax)
Second: The OA shall repair losses they have caused the AP elsewhere from their own realm.
Third: The OA shall admit the unrighteousness in their aggressions and consign themselves to peace by surrendering any and all claims to any land or title not held in their own personal demesne and name.
Fourth: The OA shall officially and publicly recognize the House Radomir as the rightful inheritors and protectors of East Rome, the House Rurikovich as unquestionable Tsars of All the Russias and the House Fatimid as infallible Caliphas and Imams of all Moslemdom.
Below is a map showing the AP in their usual colours, denoting current borders. Lighter colour denoting the lands taken from them in the last two wars of the OA that are to be returned. In this exchange nothing is taken but only restored to the pre-bellum balance.
In addition the Caliphate in compensation for the loss of the Western Isles, worth 34 basetax, and the piracy out of Crete and Malta that cost much coin and ship, demands the remainders of Chaldea and related titles outlined in Yellow, worth 32 basetax.
The Tsar, for the loss of Finland and Prussia, worth 34 and 16 basetax respectively, demands the remainder of Transoxiana outlined in Orange, worth 23 basetax.
In these demands the Aggrieved Powers are fair. Demanding only the return of the very same land so recently taken from us, less than equal compensation for the land they helped others take from us, and the Oriental alliance retracting their unjust claims upon us.
Should however the OA prove themselves resistant and belligerent to the point of continuing this war beyond gentlemanly seasons of campaign and attempting drag the respective realms into destruction when the war is obviously lost our demands will harden. Such behavior is indicative of the future inability to coexist peacefully and will result in the breaking up of the OA realms into more manageable and peaceful entities by the creation of the AI kingdoms of Azerbaijan and Rum, that the OA may war upon them in their own time and not trouble us.
Should the war drag on even further and cause much strain and destruction upon the AP we will join Azerbaijan and Rum together and put Ike as king under our protection.
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Note that due to the many bugs the war is currently quite even, Persia having taken much of the Caliphates border vassals, while both he and Byz have suffered heavy losses. The combatants will now go through the statistics and make decissions concerning how to proceed. Mind the Agrieved Powers fastly maintain that this kind of wanton agression cannot be accepted or allowed to continue.
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Here is the preprepared demands the defending powers laid out in the event that one of us was assaulted by Persia/Byzantion
Causus Belli and Demands of Restoration and Reparation in the Oriental War
Whereas;
First: The Oriental Alliance (KoM,Foels) have Championed wars and aggression against the Aggrieved Powers (vR,OY,Frosty) unrightfully taking from them lands, titles and gold.
Second: The OA have assisted other powers in the same.
Third: The OA have funded Piracy around Crete, not only against common trade but also against the tribute ships between the lords of al-Andalus and All the Russias. Ships bearing the very coat of arms of the Sovereign Sultan of al-Andalus and carrying gifts of peace!
Fourth: The OA have funded subversion amongst the Cossacks and other peoples among the Rus, goading them to abandon loyalty to their rightful liege lord the Tsar and create petty states for themselves.
Fifth: The OA have through nefarious schemes convinced the Polacks to commit acts "beyond the pale of civilised law" forcing the Croats and Rus to move in and take protectorship over the outlaw nation to restore law and order, at significant cost and burdensome reaction from church and foreign diplomats.
the Aggrieved Powers, deeming the OA chiefly responsible for these aggressions and fiendish acts now demand reparations and compensations equal to the pain and loss suffered;
First: The OA shall restore any and all lands taken from the AP in the last wars (in the case of Dyrrachion the Komnenids shall instead restore the remaining parts of Thrace, which are of equal wealth in basetax)
Second: The OA shall repair losses they have caused the AP elsewhere from their own realm.
Third: The OA shall admit the unrighteousness in their aggressions and consign themselves to peace by surrendering any and all claims to any land or title not held in their own personal demesne and name.
Fourth: The OA shall officially and publicly recognize the House Radomir as the rightful inheritors and protectors of East Rome, the House Rurikovich as unquestionable Tsars of All the Russias and the House Fatimid as infallible Caliphas and Imams of all Moslemdom.
Below is a map showing the AP in their usual colours, denoting current borders. Lighter colour denoting the lands taken from them in the last two wars of the OA that are to be returned. In this exchange nothing is taken but only restored to the pre-bellum balance.
In addition the Caliphate in compensation for the loss of the Western Isles, worth 34 basetax, and the piracy out of Crete and Malta that cost much coin and ship, demands the remainders of Chaldea and related titles outlined in Yellow, worth 32 basetax.
The Tsar, for the loss of Finland and Prussia, worth 34 and 16 basetax respectively, demands the remainder of Transoxiana outlined in Orange, worth 23 basetax.
In these demands the Aggrieved Powers are fair. Demanding only the return of the very same land so recently taken from us, less than equal compensation for the land they helped others take from us, and the Oriental alliance retracting their unjust claims upon us.
Should however the OA prove themselves resistant and belligerent to the point of continuing this war beyond gentlemanly seasons of campaign and attempting drag the respective realms into destruction when the war is obviously lost our demands will harden. Such behavior is indicative of the future inability to coexist peacefully and will result in the breaking up of the OA realms into more manageable and peaceful entities by the creation of the AI kingdoms of Azerbaijan and Rum, that the OA may war upon them in their own time and not trouble us.
Should the war drag on even further and cause much strain and destruction upon the AP we will join Azerbaijan and Rum together and put Ike as king under our protection.
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Note that due to the many bugs the war is currently quite even, Persia having taken much of the Caliphates border vassals, while both he and Byz have suffered heavy losses. The combatants will now go through the statistics and make decissions concerning how to proceed. Mind the Agrieved Powers fastly maintain that this kind of wanton agression cannot be accepted or allowed to continue.
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Booo! Hiss! Down with the unholy alliance! Up the slightly less unholy alliance!
How convenient that the
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reducing the two nations of the "Oriental Alliance" to totally insignificant minors with two equally insignificant AI neighbors to play around a bit. Are they issued a shovel alongside with their sandbox ?
The fact that Russia and Egypt had preplanned demands just goes to show that they were, indeed, planning to invade us.
When faced with the two most powerful nations and their minions planning your destruction what can you do but attack them first? Should we have waited for them to position all their armies, at least double the size of ours, on our borders, ensuring our defeat?
When faced with the two most powerful nations and their minions planning your destruction what can you do but attack them first? Should we have waited for them to position all their armies, at least double the size of ours, on our borders, ensuring our defeat?
Yes, that is how a defensive pact works.
"What do we do if those two attack us again?"
"Let us promise eachother support, and prepare for such an eventuality"
Ta-da! Preprepared! Next they will tell us building forts is an act of agression...
One does not use defensive pacts to attack people, they are used in the event of an attack.
We decided that if you attack one of us again it would be prudent to reduce you into enteties that would be less likely to assault us once every ten years..
You would just use it to shiv one of the daycare workers.
The fact that Persia first claimed All of Syria and Jerusalem, as in every last province of and then invaded the Caliphate, twice, is indicative of nothing then?
The fact is that me and vR really are not interested in being allied with eachother, or getting dragged into eachothers bussiness. Our cooperation is entirely manufactured by the two of you invading us! Had you not championed that 'Cossack state' there would have been no defensive pact in the first place.
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