mmm....rome got annexed by egyptian infidels M'kay?
so you sure you are on rigth page
so you sure you are on rigth page
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You do realise that there are pretty much no other nations left in western Europe apart from Al-Andalus and Bavaria? Who's going to stop them? The mighty Croato-Danish coalition? You'll have more than enough other worries come EU3, and the rest can't be arsed to bring down those two.
Soooo... I don't suppose you're up for a permanent peace treaty in which you give me that last province in France, the Loire king title and I guarantee your independence?
Rome as the city got ransacked by the Muslims but Rome as in Eastern Roman Empire or Byzantium Empire is still alive and kicking.
Guarantee against who? The only person i think even wants Ireland is Denmark. That would basically mean that you would be his enemy.
Apparently there is another two Romes. Who don't hold Rome but are of Roman decent, and so are of Rome but not the Rome.
As for Islam gaining to much ground, just you wait!
And why would the Greeks turn on the Arabs? Is it not our friendship that has allowed them their victories in Italy and Russia?
I've only been burning the city for a decade or two, as soon as it becomes Arab all will be nice and peaceful. :]
I said Rome because "west rome" was obviously Fake Rome. East Rome is Rome. Rome the city is Rum nowadays
It's good to see you support the Radomirs in their claims of Emperorship.
Dar al-Islam is far from large! There are still alot of areas that havent seen the light yet!
Dar al-Islam is far from large! There are still alot of areas that havent seen the light yet!
The Arabs just conquered the Caucasus, the Caspian shores, the Volga-Ural, all the Mediterranean Isles, northern Iberia, Italy and France. Can't we chill for a bit now?
The Arabs just conquered the Caucasus, the Caspian shores, the Volga-Ural, all the Mediterranean Isles, northern Iberia, Italy and France. Can't we chill for a bit now?
*puts on caliph hat* But those "Arabs" are Catholics! Infidels! Traitors!
*puts on realist hat* And potential friends and allies!
*puts on caliph-pope-emperor hat* Technically they are Averronian christians, who recognize the Calipha as Pope. So really they are merely heretics, and heretics beat infidels any day.
*puts on realist hat* friendly heretics with large armies and deep coffers!
*Puts the TWBW conspiracy hat on* HRE, HRE...the biggest nations are forming de facto powerblock and claiming that it don't exist but it does!!
*Puts the realistic, objectivity hat on* HRE, HRE...
*Puts the realistic, objectivity hat on* HRE, HRE...
or was it the wrong conversation...
With you the safe money is on "bungled grammar", regardless of what the question happens to be. (Closely followed by "talks too damn much on TS".)
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Hmmm...
*puts on caliph-pope-emperor hat* Technically they are Averronian christians, who recognize the Calipha as Pope. So really they are merely heretics, and heretics beat infidels any day.
*puts on realist hat* friendly heretics with large armies and deep coffers!
Doesn't look like a denial to me
.That said, pluralist Iberia supports the Caliphapope! Even the Jews and Pagans appreciate Imperial Caliphapope support.
There is a marked difference between a proper powerblock and the paranoid big boys signing a bunch of NaP's and DA's. Especially since there are no clear lines between any supposed blocks.