Check Sum Stuff

[Hemothep]

As Vicky3 will have achievements there probably will be an iron man mode that checks if the check sum of the game has been modified.

This check sum is derived from some, but not all folders of the game files. Some pdx games do this far better than others.

Please don't include anything cosmetic (like flags, country colors, localisation, etc.) or the UI into the check sum. Bonus points if you create your own buttons with functions that would be allowed in vanilla anyway, because it would allow for the creation of QoL features by modders that are iron man compatible.

 

[Lord Lambert]

UI into the check sum. Bonus points if you create your own buttons with functions that would be allowed in vanilla anyway

I can almost 100% guarantee you all of this will break ironman.

 

[Hemothep]

I can almost 100% guarantee you all of this will break ironman.

I know the buttons are a lot to ask for, but f.e. the UI in Stellaris doesn't break iron man.

 

[Lord Lambert]

I know the buttons are a lot to ask for, but f.e. the UI in Stellaris doesn't break iron man.

iirc, it is because with Jomini the UI became a lot more "powerful" and capable of more things. Things in the UI layer can directly affect the game in ways that they cannot in pre-Jomini games. (Imperator and CK3 are Jomini games)

 

[Hemothep]

iirc, it is because with Jomini the UI became a lot more "powerful" and capable of more things. Things in the UI layer can directly affect the game in ways that they cannot in pre-Jomini games. (Imperator and CK3 are Jomini games)

Imperator is a good example how not to do it. You can't even change a countries color without breaking iron man. It does not make the game easier if Chaucia isn't pink.

 

[wilcoxchar]

I can almost 100% guarantee you all of this will break ironman.

Agreed. The checksum isn't only for ironman, so a lot of stuff that is cosmetic does probably need to be included in it.

 

[alexti]

I know the buttons are a lot to ask for, but f.e. the UI in Stellaris doesn't break iron man.

In Stellaris even a simple assignment of a shortcut changes checksum. My guess is that's because checksum is also used in MP games and having a better UI mod enabled would give a player an advantage. Of course, there is nothing preventing people from using outside tools to improve UI, so I am not sure if this checksum protection achieves much

 

[Kliwarrior]

As already posted , the main issue Is that in MP , I can effectively "cheat" with an UI-only mod.

I really love cosmetic Mod , so I really hope Devs will implement TWO checksums: one for the Achievement (which takes out UI) and another full for the MP.