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Neat trick, that IA farming :)

But how is it that you keep getting heirs old enough to keep killing like that? You've gone through dozens of kings in sixteen years. I must be missing something.
It works because he has no heirs thus a random person from the dinasty takes over.
 

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Neat trick, that IA farming :)

But how is it that you keep getting heirs old enough to keep killing like that? You've gone through dozens of kings in sixteen years. I must be missing something.

You don't start with an heir. If you kill your ruler, you generate a new Hapsburg, unless your marriages would result in a foreign dynasty taking over. I first married foreign rulers without heirs and killed them, putting Hapsburgs on their thrones. I got Bohemia, Palatinate, and Brandenburg in PU's under me, which meant I had the electors to guarantee being elected each time. Then I just killed my ruler again and again, getting +10 IA, and each time it remained a Hapsburg. Kept doing that until the Emperorship was made hereditary (after which you don't get IA for ruler changes). Then it's a matter of waiting for each foreign ruler to get an age 15 king with no heir. It's not perfect, since they are lucky nations and tend to generate heirs very quickly, meaning there's a 15 year wait for the kid to grow up, take rulership, and hopefully NOT have an heir waiting in line.

The only thing that throws a wrench in it is making sure you have the Electors to continue electing you, and that you don't get Maria Theresa as your random new ruler.

Oh, and I united the HRE. It's amusing to see the cardinals spawning in all my land now. I wonder how the Reformation will play out.
 

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Alright, that's enough amusement. fix plz.

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(brings back memories of earlier patches, though, before the royal marriage / pu fix)
 

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Is it possible to abuse this hard to get Western Europe united as Austria in 50 years (especially the colonisers), and then steamroll through the rest of the world, to achieve a 1.8 WC?
 

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Is it possible to abuse this hard to get Western Europe united as Austria in 50 years (especially the colonisers), and then steamroll through the rest of the world, to achieve a 1.8 WC?

WC can probably be achieved normally. With this command it's pretty much assured. Off to start Austria and England saves. I wonder if any other commands work...
 

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WC can probably be achieved normally.

In 1.8? Nobody's done so that I know of. They just added, what, 900 provinces? It was achieveable before, they certainly keep trying to shut down any further achievement of it.

But yes, you absolutely could exploit this, but it would certainly be exploiting... I mean, nobody is gonna say I did that legit. If you just want the shiny "Achievement earned!" toast, then sure, do it, but it's not like you're really accomplishing it. I mean, 40 years in I have 100+ provinces with 0 autonomy, every German & Italian nation is mine (less Papal State, Venice, Urbino), and 4 global powers are in a PU under me. There's literally no challenge beyond advancing the years and crushing everything.

Is it possible to abuse this hard to get Western Europe united as Austria in 50 years (especially the colonisers), and then steamroll through the rest of the world, to achieve a 1.8 WC?

It's literally the image right before you posted.
 

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In 1.8? Nobody's done so that I know of. They just added, what, 900 provinces? It was achieveable before, they certainly keep trying to shut down any further achievement of it.

But yes, you absolutely could exploit this, but it would certainly be exploiting... I mean, nobody is gonna say I did that legit. If you just want the shiny "Achievement earned!" toast, then sure, do it, but it's not like you're really accomplishing it. I mean, 40 years in I have 100+ provinces with 0 autonomy, every German & Italian nation is mine (less Papal State, Venice, Urbino), and 4 global powers are in a PU under me. There's literally no challenge beyond advancing the years and crushing everything.

It's only been a week. WCs are slow and deliberate, lots of multi-front fighting, lots of pausing. One tag using the HRE is 100% possible, as long as you don't want everything cored at the end. One tag fully cored is also possible, though would need luck. One tag without HRE might be possible as well, but not fully cored and also needs luck.
 

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It's only been a week. WCs are slow and deliberate, lots of multi-front fighting, lots of pausing. One tag using the HRE is 100% possible, as long as you don't want everything cored at the end. One tag fully cored is also possible, though would need luck. One tag without HRE might be possible as well, but not fully cored and also needs luck.
The amount of provinces you need to siege is already substantially increased in the ROTW, and CNs go independant if their mother nation is crippled by war, meaning you have to defeat a bunch of huge and powerful CNs in the Americas. There is no plausible strategy so far for a WC, let alone a one tag one.
 

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The amount of provinces you need to siege is already substantially increased in the ROTW, and CNs go independant if their mother nation is crippled by war, meaning you have to defeat a bunch of huge and powerful CNs in the Americas. There is no plausible strategy so far for a WC, let alone a one tag one.

You can annex 500% normal war score at Admin tech 26 with Admin Efficiency and Diplomatic Ideas. You can't be in a coalition at peace. A last mass annexation can certainly get it done.
 

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The amount of provinces you need to siege is already substantially increased in the ROTW, and CNs go independant if their mother nation is crippled by war, meaning you have to defeat a bunch of huge and powerful CNs in the Americas. There is no plausible strategy so far for a WC, let alone a one tag one.

There're a lot more provinces, true. But we also have -20% warscore cost from Diplomatic and -warscore cost from high autonomy. In my Theodoro game I was able to vassalize Ottomans while they owned Anatolia and the Levant for ~60% warscore because they had close to 100% autonomy in all provinces. I had either none or the first level of admin efficiency at that point.
 

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There're a lot more provinces, true. But we also have -20% warscore cost from Diplomatic and -warscore cost from high autonomy. In my Theodoro game I was able to vassalize Ottomans while they owned Anatolia and the Levant for ~60% warscore because they had close to 100% autonomy in all provinces. I had either none or the first level of admin efficiency at that point.

wait what, high autonomy lowers total warscore for a country?

Oh god, i see a whole new potential for espionage. Support peasant rebels, wait till hey revolted, then declare support rebel war. Rinse repeat, until autonomy is skyrocketing. Vassalise ottoblob in one war. If that is doable, well...

Also, wish i hadn't read this thread.

Makes any 1.8 wc conquest thread doubtable, since peope will yell "you used the console bug for all your PU"
 

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wait what, high autonomy lowers total warscore for a country?

Oh god, i see a whole new potential for espionage. Support peasant rebels, wait till hey revolted, then declare support rebel war. Rinse repeat, until autonomy is skyrocketing. Vassalise ottoblob in one war. If that is doable, well...

Also, wish i hadn't read this thread.

Makes any 1.8 wc conquest thread doubtable, since peope will yell "you used the console bug for all your PU"

I don't know if that was the reason, but all their provinces were at 1% WS cost. I assumed it was because of the local autonomy.
 

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There're a lot more provinces, true. But we also have -20% warscore cost from Diplomatic and -warscore cost from high autonomy. In my Theodoro game I was able to vassalize Ottomans while they owned Anatolia and the Levant for ~60% warscore because they had close to 100% autonomy in all provinces. I had either none or the first level of admin efficiency at that point.

I wondered why I got some ridiculously good peace deals with new provinces... with absurd warscore costs and 4-5 provinces empires vassaling at ~40% warscore...
 

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So it's only the kill command? Shame. I was hoping I could console spawn a bunch of religious rebels to convert to different religions since rebels are too eager to force heathen/heretic tolerance now. I suppose is a fun little trick if you have no dignity and settle for grey skin.
 

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Even without the console you can use programs like cheatengine to cheat in ironman mode. Just because someone did something in ironman doesnt mean that cheats were not used.