Cheaters ruining EU4 MP games

[Liokense]

In the last 2-3 days there has been a really high amount of cheating/hacking in multiplayers EU4 games. The cheaters/hackers can enter the lobbys invisible to anyone in there and once the game start they can switch tags, observe other countries, make everyone to go -34k ducats instantly, etc.

Don't know why this haven't been discuss in the forums yet but aparently I'm the first one adressing the issue (prob because EU4 MP community is kinda small).

I'm new to the forum and I don't know whats the proper way to addres this kind of issues so some help will be apreciated.

It's getting really frustating because MP games are usually coordinated by discord and we simply dont have the tools to deal with this situation since they simply create new accounts if you find them and ban them and is really hard to find who is the one doing this BS in the first place. On top of all of this since they are invisible you can't simply know if they are or not in your lobby so when you start the game even if you check them on discord there is no way to know if this guys are in the game or not.

Thanks everyone.

 

[deckhand]

Can they do this if you password protect joining?

 

[Liokense]

No but if they know that your hosting they will try to join... comunitty is also not big enought to sustain regular password games

 

[magni_]

The problem is not new, and it basicly made me Stop public MP in this game atm (public games have a scap rate of >80% before 1550 because of this and other problems

 

[RAID186]

Is the invisible issue based on them not assigning themselves a name, or because they actually have a hack that allows them to join without showing on the player list?

It seems like an odd thing, so are you sure there's not just someone in the game who has some sort of hack already, just trolling everyone, or have these hackers confessed and you know they exist?

 

[Dasmani]

Is the invisible issue based on them not assigning themselves a name, or because they actually have a hack that allows them to join without showing on the player list?

It seems like an odd thing, so are you sure there's not just someone in the game who has some sort of hack already, just trolling everyone, or have these hackers confessed and you know they exist?

Plot twist: He is the hacker. He wants the infamy of being a big enough problem that major action has to be taken. This is his way of kicking off a cyber war with the developers.

Second plot twist: The cyber war with the developers was all a smokescreen for an elaborate bank heist

Final twist: the robbers confuses Sweden with Switzerland, and were confused.

 

[Dunya]

Plot twist: He is the hacker. He wants the infamy of being a big enough problem that major action has to be taken. This is his way of kicking off a cyber war with the developers.

Second plot twist: The cyber war with the developers was all a smokescreen for an elaborate bank heist

Final twist: the robbers confuses Sweden with Switzerland, and were confused.

You're either a genius or very dumb. Don't know which...

 

[Porg]

This is becoming a serious issue, I had sat home for 7 hours after school trying to play eu4 multiplayer and every game I got into had a hacker who bankrupted people, I have wasted countless hours of my life on multiplayer games that get canceled within 20-30 minutes because of people who get in, and I do believe they can bypass the password.

 

[Porg]

Also, as for if hackers have been identified, yes, we did find out one and they can just make discord-alts and join in or completely bypass the password ...

 

[GundamMerc]

Also, as for if hackers have been identified, yes, we did find out one and they can just make discord-alts and join in or completely bypass the password ...

Honestly I would recommend you vet people through public, non-passworded games before you invite them on a discord to play a passworded game with anyone. People who do that kind of stuff tend to not play public games in a normal fashion, while legitimate players play normally as is obvious. It might reduce the amount of people who join the discord initially, but the community will be far less toxic and more likely to have legitimate players.

 

[Knut Skallagrim]

Lal this thing is amazing, another reason why eu4 multiplayer is useless i guess. There should be a way for the lobby creator to get a debug log or smth that will make him able to see Players and the tag they’ve chosen, and ban from the game the idiot that is hacking the game, also reporting it to Steam so that he gets his account and copy banned from multiplayer, if this aint possible then a clunky multiplayer that ruined single player experience finally died today and thats ok tbh it wasnt anything amazing anyways, now gimme back a real exit to menu since i knew the thing about checksum since eu2 and the fact that you guys make the game crash on purpose to reset the checksum gives me no hope on a professional work being done

 

[Tom D.]

Lal this thing is amazing, another reason why eu4 multiplayer is useless i guess.

Why only EU4 multiplayer though, aren't all Paradox games similar for MP?

 

[gigau]

Especially if it's something specific to EUIV MP, it may be linked to a bug. Might be worth creating a tiket in the Bug Reports subforum.

 

[GundamMerc]

Lal this thing is amazing, another reason why eu4 multiplayer is useless i guess. There should be a way for the lobby creator to get a debug log or smth that will make him able to see Players and the tag they’ve chosen, and ban from the game the idiot that is hacking the game, also reporting it to Steam so that he gets his account and copy banned from multiplayer, if this aint possible then a clunky multiplayer that ruined single player experience finally died today and thats ok tbh it wasnt anything amazing anyways, now gimme back a real exit to menu since i knew the thing about checksum since eu2 and the fact that you guys make the game crash on purpose to reset the checksum gives me no hope on a professional work being done

Here's a simple fix. Have everyone post their steam account url onto the discord when they join. Now what you do is keep track of that, and find them on the map with *gasp* player map mode, which will have their name and the color of their country. If they do anything untoward, bam, easy report and ban.

 

[ponasozis]

Here's a simple fix. Have everyone post their steam account url onto the discord when they join. Now what you do is keep track of that, and find them on the map with *gasp* player map mode, which will have their name and the color of their country. If they do anything untoward, bam, easy report and ban.

these hackers can stay invisible in game even just being observer and ruining the game for anyone who is playing because they are not nice people to say as calmly as possible
we even had instances of this happening in our in clan from another game private game session that only we knew about happening
basically we hosted a private game and they hacker still managed to get in and ruin the game for us by making us all lose everything

 

[Sparticulous]

Why would someone troll a online game to disrupt its multiplayer? Is paradox making triple A enemies?

 

[GundamMerc]

Why would someone troll a online game to disrupt its multiplayer? Is paradox making triple A enemies?

You're seriously asking that question? You have a much higher view of humanity than most people then.

 

[Liokense]

So aparently anyone that changes his name to / is able to enter games without apearing in the list of players or in the log... one step closer to find a solution maybe but this bring another problem that anyone can ruin games now.

 

[gigau]

I'm genuinely confused... i haven't played MP in a while, but i recall a MP game with a player with no name (in that case, it was aregular player with odd ideas of fun)... in the menu, an empty line was there, with the boot to kick him out and the like.

If that doesn't appear, it would mean they are using a bug, and that bug should be reported to Paradox in the proper subforum.

 

[Commonblob]

You're seriously asking that question? You have a much higher view of humanity than most people then.

No, seriously, what are they getting out of this?