Charlemagne Start Date In HIP

[Finarfin]

Can it be done? I only seem to be able to go back as far as 867?

 

[cnnrduncan]

To quote the HIP Release thread:
"SWMH does not include a 769 start. There is no plan to add one."

IIRC this is because we really don't know too much about most of the world back then, so a lot of rulers would just be made up, which kinda goes against the whole idea of SWMH

 

[historiasdeosos]

Nope.

REMINDERS:

• Always remember to delete any preexisting modules/ folder before extracting the release download into your mod folder.
• SWMH does not include a 769 start. There is no plan to add one.
• ARKOpack Interface will be ready in a future HIP release.
• As always, one must use the same modules as previously used with old savegames. Exceptions which may be enabled or disabled at your pleasure:
  • SED: English Localisation for SWMH
  • ARKOpack Interface (when it's back)
  • Arumba's Keyboard Shortcuts
  • LTM

 

[Finarfin]

Where is that thread? Is that different from the stickied download thread? I was looking for an FAQ and didn't see one.

Can you start in 769 if you don't use SWMH?

 

[Adijedi]

Where is that thread? Is that different from the stickied download thread? I was looking for an FAQ and didn't see one.

if you look closely the download thread says /FAQ at the end of its title

Can you start in 769 if you don't use SWMH?

yes

 

[Toa Kraka]

if you look closely the download thread says /FAQ at the end of its title

The stickied thread doesn't actually include the "SWMH doesn't have a 769 start" reminder, though. That's present only in the release thread for each version of the mod.

 

[Finarfin]

if you look closely the download thread says /FAQ at the end of its title

You don't even have to look closely. However, that's where I looked for an FAQ and I don't only not see an FAQ, I don't see a link to one, either.

 

[Vethantis]

someone should save everyone the trouble and make a bot that posts this entire thread in the HIP forum at random with a MTTH of 2 or 3 months

 

[dadadam]

i think 769 startdate doenst make much sense for a medieval strategy game.
even the feudalism didnt exist in 769 and mostly the whole world gets weird in 769 startdates.....katholic Byzanz, muslim vikings, norse Germans and France counquered by andalusia.....mostly the ai-charlemagne fails hard or his brother didnt die....

 

[Rylock]

It would take someone going and making a 769 bookmark as a sub-mod.

Could that be done? Sure. I think there's been at least one attempt to start it previously.

Why was that sub-mod not completed? Because it's a lot of work. You're folding in not only all the vanilla title and province history, but also figuring out how to match it up with the SWMH province layout (which really isn't intended for that era and won't match up with it well) and what to do with the other 50% of the titles which aren't in vanilla. The SWMH team isn't going to do that work because three-quarters of it (or more) would be complete fabrication and that's not they're stated mission.

But if somebody else wants to do it? You're welcome to do so.

 

[StarlightTW]

And to be honest, myself for example? I'd play it. Occasionally. When I was trying to do something silly, usually. But if I want a well-balanced game I usually go for 1066 anyway. Otherwise the east just annoys me because it NEVER progresses beyond tribalism really, and if it does it's like...one holding per province and stays super weak. Which was totally correct in some areas but definitely not so in others. An even earlier bookmark would only make this issue worse.

 

[RhaegarTelcontarTargaryen]

And to be honest, myself for example? I'd play it. Occasionally. When I was trying to do something silly, usually. But if I want a well-balanced game I usually go for 1066 anyway.

99% of my games are 25th December 1066 Start. Yeah sure sometimes I play as Hardrade, Harald of the Bastard in September start. The only time I ever played 769 or 867 was with Charles the Great, or Alfred the Great, or when I want to play a Viking game with either one of Ragnar's sons or with Harald Fairhair. None of them last longer than a century or two because it gets way too easy after some time.

Would it be cool if someone added 769? Yes.
Will I die for it, and feel pissed because there isn't one now? No.