Charlemagne - Republic Succession ends game

[ijustwanna]

So I just tried my first Charlemagne game, starting as Venice. Everything going great, noticed no problems. My dude lives to like 83 and finally dies. My heir lost the election even though he was slightly ahead in score. Okay, no biggie, happens. I click "So be it" on the death message screen and get... this? It was an ironman game so I suppose I can't reload to try again.

Edit, some further notes: As can be seen in the top right, the game just continued running at the game over screen - is this normal behavior? Also those 69 high-priority messages appeared together with the death screen IIRC.
Edit 2: Turns out I can reload. Lovely. Gonna try again.

Edit 3: So it seems that the game only ends when I lose the election (happened on multiple reloads). I just pumped all my money into the election fund to make sure I win, and the game continued after death.

 

[JohanLerstrom]

This sounds very serious, Ill make sure it is looked into.

 

[ijustwanna]

Just one more observation: After I got the above guy's son elected, he of course also died at some point. Lost the election (not enough funds to have any chance) and game over again. So it doesn't seem to be tied to the first character or something like that.

 

[Galle]

This sounds very similar to the symptoms of the patrician succession bug I discovered when the patrician heir was female. I was told that was being fixed in this patch, though.

 

[Galle]

Possibly related: Creating vassal republics as England, I've discovered that, upon the doge's death, if the doge's patrician-heir doesn't win the election, the republic's title and the republic's capital don't get inherited by the same person. This can lead to the capital being moved inland and the republic losing its merchantness.

 

[Summercat]

Possibly related: Creating vassal republics as England, I've discovered that, upon the doge's death, if the doge's patrician-heir doesn't win the election, the republic's title and the republic's capital don't get inherited by the same person. This can lead to the capital being moved inland and the republic losing its merchantness.

Apparently, the c_ level title inheritance laws do not match the Republican ones, as per http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...en-in-the-new-start-date-can-fix-with-console

 

[ijustwanna]

Aaaand another thing I forgot about. See picture: I can change inheritance. I noticed this with the first ruler; he actually had all the requirements to change it but I didn't try it out. With this guy I unfortunately can't try what happens if I change it. But I'm relatively sure this is not supposed to be there.

 

[delpiero1234]

This sounds very serious, Ill make sure it is looked into.

It is very serious because it breaks the entire The Republic DLC which people like myself have paid for.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?806578-2.2.-Republics-broken

 

[Lot]

So far, as amalfi and a created republic of dublin I actually have the opposite. I win the election every time no matter what the respect of my heir is.

 

[delpiero1234]

So far, as amalfi and a created republic of dublin I actually have the opposite. I win the election every time no matter what the respect of my heir is.

As Venice it's game over even if I win the election. Haven't tried it again today but that was what I experienced yesterday.

 

[Varyar]

I have this exact problem as well, playing as one of the Patricians of Venice. When the Doge dies and a successor is elected from a different family, the following occur:
* Venice becomes a kingdom, with the king being the elected Patrician
* The county of Venice passes to the son of the previous Doge, rather than to the new Doge as it should.
* Presumably, the game ends because the player only holds the 'family estate', which disappears when the Republic ends and becomes a kingdom (and/or because they cannot remain under a vassal rather than top Republic rule).

I saved right after succession, and loading up the save shows a king of Venice, and all trade posts hoisting the rebel flag. Unpausing yields game over.

 

[delpiero1234]

I hope Paradox fixes this issue ASAP and stops selling The Republic as long as this issue remains unfixed. Selling a 100% non-working product is not cool.

 

[Varyar]

I hope Paradox fixes this issue ASAP and stops selling The Republic as long as this issue remains unfixed. Selling a 100% non-working product is not cool.

Well, to be fair I don't think the fault lies with the Republic DLC, which always worked fine last I played CK2 (maybe a year ago). Most likely it's some small bug introduced in the latest patch which will be sorted out swiftly.

 

[Galle]

Well, to be fair I don't think the fault lies with the Republic DLC, which always worked fine last I played CK2 (maybe a year ago). Most likely it's some small bug introduced in the latest patch which will be sorted out swiftly.

Pretty much. I suspect it's actually my fault - I asked them to fix a bug with the Republic DLC that occurred whenever a doge's heir was female (which can't happen in vanilla, but is important for modders) and somehow the fix wound up making things worse.

 

[delpiero1234]

Well, to be fair I don't think the fault lies with the Republic DLC, which always worked fine last I played CK2 (maybe a year ago). Most likely it's some small bug introduced in the latest patch which will be sorted out swiftly.

Does it really matter what the source behind it is? The fact remains that the DLC is broken and people who buy it will not be able to use the features they have paid for.
I'm amazed and shocked that this bug was not noticed during the developing phase of Charlemagne.

 

[LordDamien]

Does it really matter what the source behind it is? The fact remains that the DLC is broken and people who buy it will not be able to use the features they have paid for.
I'm amazed and shocked that this bug was not noticed during the developing phase of Charlemagne.

For some reason though, It sounds more like the Game thinks the Op does not have the Republic Dlc and that is why its giving a game over. Since that is what the message says, That they can not play the Republic. Which reminds me of a bug that use to allow Non Republic Dlc owners to play as a Republic before the game realized they did not have the Republic Dlc..

Op Do you have the Republic Dlc ?. If you do then this is a serious bug.. If not then it seems like the bug has returned that allows Non Republic Dlc people to play as Republics.

Since as well that message appears when you create a Theocracy. Saying you cant play as one.. So that is why I am guessing and wondering if the Op has the REpublic Dlc.. Since he only said he had Cm.. Does not mean he has the Republic Dlc.

 

[delpiero1234]

For some reason though, It sounds more like the Game thinks the Op does not have the Republic Dlc and that is why its giving a game over. Since that is what the message says, That they can not play the Republic. Which reminds me of a bug that use to allow Non Republic Dlc owners to play as a Republic before the game realized they did not have the Republic Dlc..

Op Do you have the Republic Dlc ?. If you do then this is a serious bug.. If not then it seems like the bug has returned that allows Non Republic Dlc people to play as Republics.

Since as well that message appears when you create a Theocracy. Saying you cant play as one.. So that is why I am guessing and wondering if the Op has the REpublic Dlc.. Since he only said he had Cm.. Does not mean he has the Republic Dlc.

I'm not the OP but I reported the same bug in a different thread and I own the The Republic DLC.

 

[LordDamien]

I'm not the OP but I reported the same bug in a different thread and I own the The Republic DLC.

Well then... it seems they have broken Republic Dlc... Have you tried any other Republic to see if it happens with them ?. Like Genoa or something ?

 

[Drake_Hound]

It is even worst, when the doge on death doesn't want to relinquish venice to you, but instead his son inherits the city, you ony gain the tittle without a county >.<

Even worst is if you take the title with a claim forged, then it is simply game over.
But that was to be expected, why is that stupid game over in going feudal not fixed.
(by simply dropping it) but all soft exploits in barony modding (and gaming) has been such a high priority.
Edit just play 5 year assassinate (trough plots) or console kill the doge. After 1 year! Not during pause start where the system has to verify everything.

And see the county and venice being kept by his son.
There is only two republics ...

 

[DominusNovus]

Lots of hyperventilating here. How about we worry about whether or not Paradox needs to stop selling stuff if its not fixed when they can get a fix out?