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Nice fight.

I like the French caps insult :rofl:

Also that was pretty pathetic from the Nazis to get beaten by some drunks
 

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An exceeding fat Nazi huh?

Could it be? Goering in a street brawl?!
 

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Nice fight.

I like the French caps insult :rofl:

Also that was pretty pathetic from the Nazis to get beaten by some drunks

Thank you, I really had fun writing that update. And hey, if you've never been in a fight drunk, you have no idea how ridiculous it can be ;)

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An exceeding fat Nazi huh?

Could it be? Goering in a street brawl?!

I won't say yes or no. I'll leave that one up for speculation for now. :D
 

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The Social Democrats, along with the Centre and the DNVP, represented the three last bastions of civility within German politics.

Humph. Interesting, the lack of DVP and DStP/DDP. Not their lack in the Council- though the DVP would have seemed a likely invitee, being the right-centre and the fifth largest party in the former Reichstag if the KPD were uncounted, but, then again, the Council doesn't follow the old Reichstag- after all, the SPD were the largest party in the 1930 and 1928 Reichstags- but their lack of mention, while the DNVP is.
 

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LordInsane said:
Humph. Interesting, the lack of DVP and DStP/DDP. Not their lack in the Council- though the DVP would have seemed a likely invitee, being the right-centre and the fifth largest party in the former Reichstag if the KPD were uncounted, but, then again, the Council doesn't follow the old Reichstag- after all, the SPD were the largest party in the 1930 and 1928 Reichstags- but their lack of mention, while the DNVP is.

The lack of the DVP in the council was a conscious choice by myself, especially since the council is not a democratic institution, but rather a cabinet that attempts to reconcile the different views in Germany at the time. It's an experiment by von Schleicher, von Papen and Hindenburg. The DVP was, like you said, the fifth largest party in Germany, and when you count for the mass waves of support the Communist Revolt generated for both the NSDAP and the DNVP, their influence isn't all that great in this alternate history. Regardless of their place in actual history, in this timeline they've become a less-radical satellite of the DNVP. Also consider that the DVP was much more an economically liberal party, and in this timeline the government is initiating large public works programs supported by the odd pair of the SPD and NSDAP and begrudgingly accepted by the DNVP. Economic liberalism is something which isn't all that popular at the moment in this Germany, as is evidenced by the massive decline of the Centre Party.

Their lack of mention is mostly due to two things. I've picked the parties which will be major parties throughout the AAR to be the "stars" and none of the Liberal Parties will be that important throughout this whole thing. The other part is that I just haven't mentioned them specifically for fear of making things too convoluted and messy. I've referred to "the parties of the right" when talking about the meetings of the Reichstag, and be sure that the Right coalition includes both the DVP and DDP, although the largest faction members are the NSDAP and DNVP.

But, as it is, it is good to see someone who knows a great deal about German interwar politics, probably even more than myself. It'll make me do my research ;)

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That update was beautiful... go Fedor!

Thank you sir. I originally was planning on having Fedor as just a back-up character to Gerhardt, but that last update makes me want to develop his character more than I have.
 
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Now... makes me wonder why they're also Brown Shirts! :D
 

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Fedor so gets all the ladies.

Hot blonde German bar wenches... mmmm
 

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Thank you sir. I originally was planning on having Fedor as just a back-up character to Gerhardt, but that last update makes me want to develop his character more than I have.

Before you know it you have him racing around the world doing everything from espionage to commando raids. That's waht happened to me when I last wanted to develop a character more.
 

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Two great updates I must say. Finally had some time to read them. Wonder who the new Kanzler will be. Schleicher perhaps?

Gotta love Fedor, a enormous, drunk German beating Nazi's. Whats not to like :D?
 

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Mmmh, Am I the only fearing smelling a Nazi revenge for that?
 

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Mmmh, Am I the only fearing smelling a Nazi revenge for that?
You shouldn't be the only one. Even Stevie Wonder can see some brown-shirted revenge coming after their recent humiliation.
 

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You shouldn't be the only one. Even Stevie Wonder can see some brown-shirted revenge coming after their recent humiliation.
And Fedor and the lovely blonde will suffer. He was pretty bold in proclaiming the bar was protected by them!
 

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KaiserMuffin: If I keep writing about the relationships, I won't have any time to write about the streetfights, or even about Germany!

great_chairman & Ciryandor: It is one of mine as well. Besides, you know how it is. Anything's good for a laugh at the expense of the Nazis. :D

Raaritsgozilla: So true. If only all bars had a beautiful blonde server... That should be made into a law.

trekaddict: I have a feeling both Gerhardt and Fedor will be doing some interesting things in the future ;)

FlyingDutchie: It's fun to write about Germany taking a direction different from Nazism or Communism. But then again, even I don't know where I'm going some of the time. :p

NicLovin: Thank you :)

Kurt_Steiner & El Pip: The SA are not known for their forgiveness, so you can expect more street fights in the future.

Raaritsgozilla: With a steady supply of liquor, clubs, and garbage cans, Gerhardt and Fedor's Reichsbanner company could take down the entire SA :D

Also, it's update time.
 

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December 7, 1930
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“So, Ferdinand, I take it our last assassination attempt didn’t go according to plan, eh?” von Schleicher’s eyes bored across the table into von Bredow’s.

“I’m sorry, Kurt, but it didn’t. To be honest, we underestimated the Reichsbanner. I wasn’t expecting them to fight back so well.” von Bredow shifted in his seat, nervously. At any second he expected von Schleicher to shout at him for his failure. To his surprise, though, von Schleicher’s angry expression left his face suddenly and he seemed to be thinking deeply, stroking his mustache and tapping his fingers on the table.

“I asked you to find out who the commanders of that Reichsbanner unit were.” he said. “Were you able to?”

“I was able to get quite a bit of information, actually.” von Bredow opened his briefcase and removed two folders. He took one and pushed it across the desk to von Schleicher. “That man is the Captain of that Reichsbanner company. A man by the name of Gerhardt Trapp. And this—“ he said, pushing the other folder across the desk—“is his second-in-command, a Lieutenant named Fedor Holzherr. We were able to find pretty detailed information on both.”

Von Schlicher nodded and took a sip of his coffee as he scanned the files. “I spoke with a few of the assassins myself.” he said, without looking up. “They told me that Trapp fellow is a smart leader, that he managed to get the delegates out of the ambush while completely out-gunned.”

“If you’d like, I can have the assassins target him, then.” said von Bredow. “If you think he’s going to block our mission, we could kill him.”

Kill him? Are you insane, Ferdinand?” von Schleicher seemed to now be a mix of shocked and annoyed. “As it is, your mission is completed. The Social Democrats have voted to move to the center and join our government, so there’s no need to shoot any more of them. Besides, this group of the Reichsbanner has changed my opinion of their entire organization. I always thought that they were nothing more than a group of fake Reds who trotted around in uniforms, rather than really fighting. Apparently I was wrong! They could be a valuable part of our plans to covertly enlarge the military.”

“Why do we need them incorporated into the military, though? The Reds are nearly beaten.”

“Ahh, but the Reds are only the tip of the iceberg my friend. Look into the Reichsbanner’s leadership, and arrange a meeting of them with myself. That is all, you are dismissed.”

Despite wanting an explanation of the “tip of the iceberg” comment, all von Bredow got in return was von Schleicher irritably waving his hand and repeating that he had been dismissed. Sighing, he left the Chief of Staff’s office. It will have to wait another day. he thought to himself. So much for sharing of intelligence between senior officials.
 

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Goddamnit! I fail to think of a Halifax joke to make!


Anyway, this should get interesting. I can see the Internet conspiracy theories on this whole affair already.