Changing governments?

[Mike von Bek]

I was playing as the Rhoxolani, a Military Tribe, when I received an event telling me that my government was more like a Military Republic, and did I want to change? Surely, I did. Immediately thereafter, Macedonia declared war and I was no more :rofl:

Im wondering, how do we change governments? Im assuming its events based - is there anything I can do to increase the chances of a particular 'government' event popping up?

 

[Scorpi]

I would like to know that too, and sry for the hijacking but how does one escape the dictatorship.. ?

 

[unmerged(44926)]

I'm not sure how to get out of the dictatorship, but why would you want to? I was quite suprised to see my Roman Republic turn itself into a dictatorship with little to no fuss in about 490 AVC, after one general who had a few mediocre victories over Epirus and crushed a few packs barbarians invading northern Italy decided that republicanism simply wasn't working for him.

That's no good, thought I, until I looked to see what dictatorship actually did... 4 national ideas and a government bonus of +10% army discipline? And I get a stable ruler with predictable and easy to manipulate heirs? Suddenly my sentimental feelings for the res publica are fading...

 

[Wdll]

I'm not sure how to get out of the dictatorship, but why would you want to? I was quite suprised to see my Roman Republic turn itself into a dictatorship with little to no fuss in about 490 AVC, after one general who had a few mediocre victories over Epirus and crushed a few packs barbarians invading northern Italy decided that republicanism simply wasn't working for him.

That's no good, thought I, until I looked to see what dictatorship actually did... 4 national ideas and a government bonus of +10% army discipline? And I get a stable ruler with predictable and easy to manipulate heirs? Suddenly my sentimental feelings for the res publica are fading...

Yes, the dark side of the force is appealing. :rofl:

 

[Zaku]

Is there a way, to change monarchy into republic or dictatorship?

 

[Scorpi]

I'm not sure how to get out of the dictatorship, but why would you want to? I was quite suprised to see my Roman Republic turn itself into a dictatorship with little to no fuss in about 490 AVC, after one general who had a few mediocre victories over Epirus and crushed a few packs barbarians invading northern Italy decided that republicanism simply wasn't working for him.

That's no good, thought I, until I looked to see what dictatorship actually did... 4 national ideas and a government bonus of +10% army discipline? And I get a stable ruler with predictable and easy to manipulate heirs? Suddenly my sentimental feelings for the res publica are fading...

because I would like to try out some of the other goverments.

 

[bacchus451]

I would love for my mini-Atrebates empire to turn into something other than a tribe. Right now I'm just sitting on a border with Massila and Rome sort of twiddling my thumbs, waiting to be stepped on.

 

[Vladislav]

I want to see my country or another country turn into a theocracy.

 

[Calantyr]

events\governments.txt.

You can see who can change to what and how it is triggered.

 

[Nimic]

I'd love to become a dictatorship as Rome. Having a republic is just too chaotic for my taste. I'm probably not good enough at "grooming" future Consuls yet, but one situation was particularly surreal. I had this wonderful military consul who kicked a lot of Greek ass, eventually having something like 12-13 experienced, loyal cohorts. All was well. Then some other random fellow got elected consul for reason I don't know, and suddenly my wonderful warrior king was Romes greatest threat.

He went from being a consul with a dozen experienced, loyal cohorts to being a rival of my king with a dozen experienced, loyal cohorts. So I naturally tried to kill him off, or at least lose some popularity, but neither happened, so I just didn't use him. Then 20 years later he became consul again.

 

[Vladislav]

events\governments.txt.

You can see who can change to what and how it is triggered.

Oh, it seems you can't change to a theocracy by any means unless you begin as a religious tribe. How disappointing.

 

[goobermaster]

Oh, it seems you can't change to a theocracy by any means unless you begin as a religious tribe. How disappointing.

You could write a custom event to do so, if you wished.

Or create your own government. I like my Imperium, dagnabit!

 

[Vladislav]

I was thinking about it, but I would need to dwell on it a little more. Maybe if your government is a monarchy and you get a ruler who is Ambitious and Zealous without being Skeptical, with modifiers lowering the MTTH for each additional religious trait he has. Yeah, that's actually a pretty good idea. :]

 

[Secret Master]

While a dictatorship is nice, with 4 national ideas and a global discipline bonus, I find that a republic has some real advantages. Namely, with a republic, I never have to worry about a Humble Leper being my ruler and dealing with a never ending loss of popularity that even being proclaimed a god can't stop.

Also, women never get to be rulers in a republic, which is an added bonus. Not because women are bad rulers, but because they can't lead armies (in this time period, with these factions, at any rate), which is VERY problematic. It's an invitation to always having cohorts loyal to someone else for the entire length of a female ruler's reign.

Monarchies and dictatorships also can suffer from the "Foreign Powers use assassination to help kill off all the good heirs so you are stuck with feebleminded idiots" effect.

 

[Sol Invictus]

Sounds like the game models the pros and cons of Dictatorahip well then; they are very efficient and orderly if you have an "enlightened despot" such as Augustus, but can be problematic if you end up with a Caligula.

 

[Scorpi]

Anybody feel like posting the content of the goverment file for people who are not present home but bored?